Dealers hijacking the discussions

I submit all any of us can do is recognize "awesome" to our own ears! That doesn't mean that our "ears" are absolute in determining what is "awesome" for someone else. The more "we" as audiophiles get that there are no absolutes in audio, only preferences, the better off this hobby will be. We argue so much about what's good, bad, awesome, and the best! It's so silly in something as subjective as audio. I do submit it's great to talk about why we prefer one product over another.

Dave says: " I will give you one little example currently we are testing a $2,000.00 power cord with some unique technology that has made a gigantic difference in one of our setups..."  Really? 

A GIGANTIC difference!!  Was what that power cord did also include being jaw-dropping, night and day, hugely revealing and perfectly transparent?  Come on., Dave, you are a dealer...you are in the biz...you know better than.  If an expensive (yes, $2,000 is expensive) PC does anything other than supply AC to the power supply, it would be very subtle.  Gigantic is not subtle.  You guys slay me.

4425 Bill doesn’t have to he has made a fortune direct selling his products vs being a true importer that doesn’t sell direct. Go ask Kharma how that relationship ended up or any of the lines that he killed.

He is too busy halking his wares at shows all over the place to care about these forums.

As per 75% is from me, how many posts were directed at slandering me or making some nasty commment at my direction? Do you expect me to take these insults from people without being able to retort. 

Go check out my post to your USB question, and see how I answer most posts, we have tested 4 or 4 brands and models of USB cables do you think my findings there might be helpful or is that shilling to my brands?

What I meant Wilson losing their way, how many companies consistantly come out with a new model every few years at dramatically ever increasing price points and make most of their changes impossible to retrofit?

Is this fair to the consumer? I know you love your Wilson’s I was not commenting on their sound. Dave Wilson drives a Ferrari who many people in audio are wealthy due to sales of their products? The real answer is not many.

Dynaquest, yes a huge difference, increase in rhythemic percussive qualities and a slightly tighter bass. Putting this one cable in line with our reference power conditioner has made the entire presentation much more holographic and incisive. Once experienced hard to want to remove it.

Buy one and find out for yourself or don’t. Not your average power cord, has a huge active circuit in it with actual electronics.

Dave owner
Audio Doctor NJ

4425, at least we haven't heard about two-dimensional sound.  Yet, anyway.

greghn,

I don’t enjoy bickering or making long winded explanations, no body should be attacking anyone on these forums, or at shows or in stores.

The direct approach is best Grgr4blu didn’t like my style of getting to know and talk to my clients about all things not including just audio, and he didn’t like my effusive sales style.

1 year at Innovative Audio I sold $40k worth of Black Diamond racing cones and shelves because I grabbed everyone to show them how a $700 worth of Black Diamond products could make a huge difference in a systems performance for little cost compared to changing a component.

 Was the reason I was showing inexpensive accessories to make money or was it that the product was great and effective, and people who heard my presenation purchased the product because they heard the same thing which then lead to the sales?

That was many years ago, I haven’t worked at SBS for 13 or 14 years now, so what happend between him and myself was probably around 1993 pretty long time to hold a grude about a sales person whose crime was talking too much and being too effusive.

All he had to do was to pull me aside and directly say in a nice manor that he didin’t like my approach and that would have been that. No need for animosity. He has consistantly acted like I have hurt him in someway and lashes out accordingly. Not Cool, and no one needs him to protect the forums.

You will see that most posts I have commented on are one or two mentions it is only in regards to being attacked that rebuttals occur.

Just like Dynaquest being incredulous of my findings. He could PM me and find out the entire story, and he could if he wanted to check out the product from any of that companies dealers if he felt too strongly against my biases

On one of the loudspeaker posts in comes a European guy directly making an actual sales pitch to buy from him now that is shilling.

Me saying to someone in Albequrique New Mexico or Spain or Detroit to go check out a pair of Legays, ATC, or Paradigms is not shiling unless they fly into NJ and come to my store and purchase from me, not gaining a thing and that is the difference between shilling and making a recommendation.