Audiophiles should learn from people who created audio

teo_audio wrote,

"Engineers and the vast majority of scientists are almost never (99.95% +) trained in the psychological and physiological aspects of mind, nor are they multi-disciplinarians, for the most part. The engineer is the most behind the eight ball in this scenario at hand. Realization, or discipline of mind - is key, here."

>>>>>Not sure what you’re getting at. First of all, when I went to school engineers were required to take at least one course in psychology. Also, we all know by now there can be some "psychological issues" involved with audio, like expectation bias and placebo effect but these psychological issues can be *controlled* with careful testing so I think their influence might be overblown. But everything is not as it seems in this great hobby. Not by a long shot. Queue scary music.

There is a whole undiscovered universe of what is more properly called "mind-matter interaction" involved in the hobby that was the realm of Peter Belt (RIP) and PWB Electonics for many years, at least 30. Silver Rainbow Foil and the Red X Pen being excellent examples of this category of audiophile product. As well as my Clever Little Clock. There are quite a few of these audiophile products that go BUMP in the night. But iit might be a mistake to say mind-matter interaction is "psychological" as that word is frequently used in the pejorative sense. I’d opine that the fields of human evolution, biology and sensory perception are probably more appropriate to this phenomenon. It is not a trick of the mind, some sort of subliminal marketing ploy or a cheap parlor trick. It’s an automatic involuntary (subconscious) response to external stimuli. We don’t need ALL engineers and scientists to be trained in psychological aspects of audio, we only need one or two. I’m not trying to set the world on fire. I’m just trying to start a flame in a few hearts.

Isn't it odd that the majority of posts are about the things that have the least sonic signature: electronics and cables (not to mention fuses, grrrr...), and far less about what matters more: speakers and, above all, the room. Room interaction does not even have its own category. Why?

Once some folks STOP ridiculing others over electronics, after market cables and fuses who are BTW simply sharing their experiences then we can focus on room treatments which I agree is very important and often overlooked in grand scheme of things.

You do like shouting, don't you?

Isn’t it odd that the majority of posts are about the things that have the least sonic signature: electronics and cables (not to mention fuses, grrrr...), and far less about what matters more: speakers and, above all, the room. Room interaction does not even have its own category. Why?

As most people have no idea how important it is.

When they do understand how important it is, they have no idea what to do about it.

When they hire an expert on the subject, even the experts can screw it up.

It is a poorly researched area, with poorly explored complexities that are even more poorly realized in what they are.

Solutions are variable, to say the least.

The only expert I’m aware of who professionally guarantees his ’studio quality and beyond’ results from a closet sized space up to a pro level 3 million-10millon cube space... is my biz partner and friend, Taras.

He’s done the most impossible spaces you can imagine, that all other acoustics and noise control companies have walked away from, and will not touch. In my recollection, he has never failed in acing a job that is considered impossible.