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Why will no other turntable beat the EMT 927?

Having owned many good turntables in my audiophile life I am still wondering why not one of the modern designs of the last 20 years is able to beat the sound qualities of an EMT 927.
New designs may offer some advantages like multiple armboards, more than one motor or additional vibration measurements etc. but regarding the sound quality the EMT is unbeatable!
What is the real reason behind this as the machine is nearly 60 years old, including the pre-versions like the R-80?
thuchan
barbapapa
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I mainly know 3 TTs : Linn LP12 I had for several years, TW Acustic I currently have in my system and the Thorens TD124, that I listened in my system 2 weeks ago.
No restored 124 are equal. Personally I heard the Swissonor’s 124 with a 200Volt tension and all the restored pieces they made for them and for Shopper.
Both Swissonor and Schopper know the 124 needs, among other good things, an electric tension lower than the new 230 or 240V used in Europe.
Also the new tonerarm made by Swissonor is a clear winner that has been made for the Thorens wonder.
With the new bearing and a motor that is completely dismantled, greased and some parts changed, (a 4 days work by a skilled technician) there is absolutely no rumble at all.
For me the best of the 3 I really know by a wide margin. As soon as I can I want to buy one but I also ask myself how and if a 930 EMT could compete (927 is out of budget for me). 
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nandric
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The real life is such that the most people prefer myths. The old

Greek produced art from this fact (of life) and are still ''going

 strong'' as tradition .

barbapapa
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Dear Nandric,
maybe you are partly right IMO. Yes myth can sometimes influence judgement, but in many cases, time tells the truth. 
All the people who have listened and compared old EMT, Thorens, Garrad, etc to some of the best tables of these days can’t be only influenced by myth when they prefer old timers. Also old TT have to be very carefully restored for being competitive.
Imagine that if old people with all their knoledge and experience  could be « restored «  as well... 🤪
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nandric
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Dear barbapapa, One of the problems is that the quantor ''many''

does not allow logical ,uh, interpretation. Then if ''time tells the truth''

where you want to put the ''old Greek'' on your  ''timeline"?

If we talk about ''belief'' then I assume that the people are free to

believe what they want to believe. However  there are ,uh, many

 scientist who, uh, believe that truth is not an psychological notion.

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nandric
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I assume that Thuchan owned or owns the must TT's among us.

The reason is simple; he can afford many.

So he can state : ''from all TT's which I owned the the best is

EMT 927''. However there is a diffrence between ''all turntables''

and ''turntables owned by Thuchan''. The so called ''set paradoxes''

occur when the set in casu is either to large or not well specify (grin).

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