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Why don't amplifier Companies use high end fuses?

My equipment - Raven Integrated Reflection MK2 tube amp 58wpc. / Lumin A-1 DAC Streamer / Synology NAS / Isotex Aquarius Power Conditioner / Furutech Rhodium Plug / Sonus Faber Amati Homage Tradition speakers.  

I have read thousands of comments on upgraded fuses improving the performance of sound.  I am very open minded but not sold either way.  So, the question I have is....if fuses were so important, than why don't Amplifier companies all install them as OEM equipment?  To me, if they are as good as people say, that would provide companies who use them a competitive advantage?  

Every High End Audio store I go to in Phoenix have told me it does not make a difference and is a waste of money.  For the record, I have fuses purchased at an automotive store for under $10 and I think my sound is awesome.  The Company that built my amp tested the Synergistic Fuses and he emphatically said there was no difference.  

If I were to try a fuse for fun, given my equipment, what would your recommendation be to try?  
willgolf
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mapman
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No good engineer would use a fuse or any component that does not provide enough certified information to help assure its proper application since the main purpose of a fuse is not to make things sound better but rather to reliably save devices from damage.

Again people who are focused solely on how fuses "sound" miss the main points.

Its also possible in the case where the PS audio guy heard a difference that replacing and freshly seating a new fuse alone is what made the difference. That was not addressed. Almarg and others have repeatedly pointed out the things that might make a fuse change sound better other than the fuses used themselves.
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mapman
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And yes, it has been asserted that not all fuses are the same but I don’t recall any naysayer saying that, but rather the ones who’ve tried them.


Not to toot my own horn but I recall saying exactly that early on in the red fuse thread prior to actually trying the red fuse that OregonPapa sent me.

That was based mainly on my experience working in hifi and electronics stores years back and having assisted many customers with fuse related issues on many different pieces of equipment much of which was not even "high end" by today’s standards.
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nonoise
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Well, the audiophile fuses I use are ISO certified to be used in any country. And they are not uber expensive like some other brands. 

In fact, I'm getting a parcel with some new ones hopefully by this weekend. They're made in Germany, sold in China, are gold plated silver fuses with 72 hrs of cryo treatment and 48 hrs of Quantum treatment and they go for a whopping $35 apiece. And they are ISO certified as well.

I'll let everyone know how I feel after trying them out.

All the best,
Nonoise
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geoffkait
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Please note I didn’t say he wasn’t a good guy. But he said he has no idea how these fancy fuses work. I’m not the one saying it, he is. So, how can he design a fuse? Doesn’t make sense. As I said previously, he should have just sprung for the HiFi Tuning fuses and be done with it. They were the ones that set him back on his heels, for crying out loud. They were the ones that he described as astonishing. He won’t do better than that. Hel-loo! By his own admisssion, unless he was keeping it under his vest, he doesn’t know why aftermarket fuses sound so good.

It’s not clear that circuit breakers are superior to the new wave of audiophile fuses, either. Although they are probably better than ordinary stock fuses.
wolf_garcia
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Anybody who thought my post was "bullying" needs to go to their safe spot and nap for a while. I could post a "trigger warning" before writing things, but then I’d just feel like I’m pandering to the uber sensitive among us, and really, I’m just here to help people. (Not really, but saying I DON’T care seems harsh). Also, I'd like to see a discussion/debate between Paul McGowan and another amp manufacturer who disagrees with his position on Special Fuses.
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