Pro-ject 12 xtension TT vs Meridian 808.2 CD player..and the winner is!


DISCLAIMER--This is my OPINION / IMPRESSION . I am just having some fun with this because I was so happy to be able to do it and it was an eye ( or ear ) opener for me. I never had a TT so I was surprised by the results.

Wow, this was really close.  Pro-ject 12 Xtension with Sumiko Palo Santos Presentation catridge  vs Meridian 808.2 Cd player

The TT...by a hair. They both sounded exceptional!  Almost identical.

 I had the same CD/LP running at the same time. Easy to do A/B comparison. Incredibly, I did not have to adjust the volume when I switched inputs. They sounded dynamically the same.

The judgement was not easy but after quite a while it became clear. Instead of attempting to explain why Vinyl came out on top I will give you this analogy:

Picture a beautiful shiny diamond in a case. Now picture the same beautiful shiny diamond in the same case ..resting on a velvet pad.

I went to Barnes and Nobles today. They had a great 20% off for members ( and I had coupons and gift cards.. I was fully armed! ). Plenty of 4.99 CD's with a vast variety compared to the limited amount of LP's priced all the way to $45

I came home with 6 LP's. That has got to mean something.  Happy Holidays everyone!!!

Test Equipment: martin-logan 13a,   audio research ref6,  krell duo 300,    parasound jc3+,   mit cabling

mike



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"I never had a TT so I was surprised by the results."

Mikepaul-
You’ve started running out of the gate. Many here had more humble beginnings. Thats a heck of a "starter table"

"i would love to eventually have a tubed phono stage...any recommendation?"

I gave up recommending any gear, especially tube stuff. ARC naturally has great tubed phono stages. There's always listing here, on Agon. I would imagine you can't go wrong with one of those.

Once you ask for suggestions especially tube, many times it starts the silly SS vs tube debates.
tablejockey i actually borrowed a pro-ject rpm 3 TT  for 3 days .. modest cart and TT... barely gave it a listen,
but i heard the potential...
and i found out about a special offer from my dealer for the TT and cart combo that i have.---it was hard to pull the trigger. trust me.

. i have been in this game since the 80’s... lots of trade ups...

i guess i could have mentioned that i had a garrard TT and technics TT waaaay back in the day---

in 1962..i was 5...i played bobby vee’s 45rpm "take good care of my baby" on a tiny victrola..over and over and over again

similarly i played the beatle’s 45 rpm "there’s a place" over and over again
i was hooked.. the rest is history....i am sure my story parallels a lot of other old guys’ beginnings... lol




mikepaul-

we are  in the same generation. Your re-entry certainly isn't a compromise.

That being said, there's a certain vibe(maybe its just noise and distortion?) I've always preferred with the tube phono.

I have a now outdated Fosgate, plugged into a VPI Classic, which delivers enough of a "super table" Sonics just seem more convincing with an all tube system. Probably all in my head.
tablejockey... i did a quick search on the Fosgate..that is reeeally sweet looking piece......the VPI Classic?..niiiiiiice... i actually had my eye on that. i wasthisclose to buying VPI...i called them directly a few times and they are very cordial on the phone and very attentive to your needs. i love their tables and they are a stones throw from me in nj. 

i do love tube stuff. i would love a tube amp one day but i have my reservations.
 i don't know if i am up to it yet.

my friend just bought preowned BAT monoblock tube amps...loves them. but he also says they warm up his room! lol

if ever i  was to consider the tube phono stage i am going to check back with you . i would appreciate your opinion for sure.

 mike