ieales thank you for your insight. I really appreciate it. I am sure Shadorne meant to say thanks to. I agree with most of what both of you have said. I do think you both are agreeing on a lot but shadorne is getting caught up on a few particulars. But like ieales said everything has an interaction with another thing. Hope I get this right .Shadorne likes to say that a good engineered component will not vary as much as others say their systems change with a seemingly small tweek. To me any component will change with associated components weather it is inside of the piece i.e capacitors, resistors, diodes fast or slow, or it is on the outside i.e. speakers, cables, digital and it’s parameters. It all matters. I do agree that well designed equipment can be more consistent with changes and from component to component. Now if someone has a system dialed in that it doesn’t get effected much by changes and they like that that sounds good for that person. If a person has the opportunity to improve their sound with some changes and they like I want to hear about that and I wouldnt call that junk. Just my opinionated opinion.