Now, I'm confused.


Morning goners,
Currently using an Adcom GFA555, Nad C162 preamp, Dual 1019, and Vanersteen 2ce’s.
I’m looking for a wider soundstage.
Schiit Saga? Any love?
I don t need xlr’s that the Schiit Freya offers.
Help

howiemia
"I doubt changing the preamp will give you a wider so"
over 2000 posts and you are still giving dubious advice? yeesh. the type of preamp a person uses and whether is uses SS vs tube is a well-supported concept, with literally thousands of pages of forums delving into this concept.

The Saga would be a good start, it has tubes which is well-known for giving a either a larger soundstage, or at the least "sounding" like a larger soundstage. Let me explain.

There is a concept in audio that certain electronic devices give off different types of distortion: higher order harmonics (a type of distortion) versus lower order harmonics (distortion). the tube distortion is, to me and many others, the preferable type of distortion, b/c it doesn’t hurt your ears as much as from the SS, AND b/c it exudes a sonic "presence", meaning that tubes will often exude a wider and deeper sense of space ... IOWs = soundstage.

I’ve used tubes for 10 years, and I’ve been in your position. The Saga is good, but it only has one 6sn7 tube. Its a great tube, and it will provide an audible difference in soundstage I believe. But it is only a smaller change. I would encourage you to get a PreAmp with 2 tubes for the more significant soundstage that you are after.

for example, I have and use the Schiit Lyr 2. It is both a preamp and headphone/HP amp. it has 2 tubes (ECC88 type which will take a few different types of tubes: 6922, 6dJ8, etc). The Lyra 2 is listed under HPs on the Schiit site. The preamp section is intended for smaller desktop systems, and has a hi/lo gain. I use it will a full-sized bookshelf system with a pair of tube monoblocks I built and a pair of Zu Omens. It sounds fantastic, and I change the hi/lo gain depending on the source (LP vs DAC, etc) and the recording. modern recordings are fine on low gain. older recordings (70s) often need higher gain. (the Lyr only has 1 input, so you may want to get an external device with more inputs, Schiit makes one in fact, but only allows 2 ins, but there are very good options out there)

The Freya would be great: it has 4 6sn7 tubes and all the tube/ss/passive options. if you dont need the XLRs, dont worry, just dont use them. It is an unbelievable price for what the Freya offers.

IOWs, you can get a used Lyr2 for the price of a new Saga. And you can get a used Freya for the price of a new Lyr 2.
I would say, just go for it. you have a good supportive system and great Vandersteens! one of the best selling audiophile speakers of all time
In my opinion, just about all your equipment could be upgraded for a better soundstage.
The Adcom is a great amp, but if it hasn't been serviced lately, I would look into it. I think Musical Design does upgrades for Adcom and they weren't very expensive. (In fact, I just sold my 555. I found it to compare favorably to my McCormack DNA-1-which is 20 years younger).
The NAD preamp would be my first choice to upgrade, though. If you can provide a budget, maybe we can give some suggestions.
Lastly, the Dual, though a renown workhorse, could either be upgraded or at the least, have a new cartridge installed. Since I have gone to the digital side, I can't give any recommendations.
The Vandies are probably the best part of your system and will sound better with each improvement you make. 
HTH
Bob
I've setup quite a few pair of Vandersteen 1/2/3 series of speakers.  IMHO, the most crucial setup aspect is the TILT back.  This time aligns the speaker drivers to your listening position.  Get this right and set just a smidgen of toe-in and you'll get a pretty decent soundfield.

I agree with the few above that you could upgrade most of your gear.
By simply changing the fuse in my Bryston pre-amp to a SR Blue the sound stage improved; how much?  I don't really know, but it did improve and for only $150 
+1 1Graber and others.

I totally believe changing the preamp -- and perhaps the amp -- will give dramatic sonic advantages. Not familiar with Vandersteen speakers, but am sure people who commented above are right.

Oh, yes -- a cartridge change always offers huge possibilities for improvement in sound. What do you currently have?

What kind of budget do you have?

G