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Speakers "Disappearing"

I have read a lot about speakers "disappearing" so that one can't tell from where the sound is emanating. But, what about all the stereo tunes where the recordiing engineer intentionally pans the music to come from one side or the other? Can the speakers be made to "disappear" in that situation? Or, is it just the nature of the particular recording?
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bluesy41
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With proper setup and good components, speakers and a good recording you should be able to get a wall of great sound. With Maggie's I get a huge wall of sound that is so life like and utterly amazing.

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2channel8
758 posts
 
Frequently your speakers will disappear when you leave your doors unlocked.

Now that I got that out of my system, I have a very asymmetrical room and the width of my soundstage was very variable with different recordings. My system performed well with the Chesky Ultimate Demonstration Disc Vol. 2 (love that deep bass track); but not every disc or LP sounded as good. On a whim I ordered The IsoTek Ultimate System Set-Up Disc, from Music Direct if I recall. This is the only disc I’ve found that has a series of tracks that first guide one to get the channels balanced, then optimize the width of the soundstage, then the depth, then the three dimensional realism. It made a big difference in my system in my room, not just refining my speaker and listening chair replacement; but rearranging furniture and objects in the room.

Disclaimer: not in anyway affiliated. I have posted this in other threads as relevant. If you've read it before, bear with me.
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twoleftears
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Pulling speakers further out into the room is the single best improvement in placement one can make.  Bass reinforcement be damned!

Showrooms are particularly bad in this regard.  Almost always they have the boxes jammed back, partly to avoid punters tripping over them, and partly, I suspect, in case a spouse ventures in with the potential buyer.

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akaim8
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my speakers don't physically disappear, they are up too high on a shelf, and are too big and heavy.  today's thieves prefer light, modern, high tech stuff to steal, preferably the otherwise worthless, useless stuff made in China.  hahaha.  having said that, my speakers are jammed into the upper corners of my listening room, not angled inwards and right against the wall and ceiling.  and they sound great and stereo image like a mutha.  every time one of my friends comes over, and angles them inward, they soundstage deflates dramatically.  less bloom and stability.  and that's all I have to say about that...(smirk...)
prof
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Most speakers will disappear better if you:

1.  Pull them well out from the rear wall.
2. Get closer to nearfield listening (7 feet or closer)
3. Spread them wider apart (provided they have decent dispersion to keep center fill).
4. Reduce toe in, hence angle them more straight forward.  Toeing out tends to make for larger image sizes, with a less "tight to the speakers" sound, more spaciousness and warmer tone.


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