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Thank you.
Thank you.
Absolute top tier DAC for standard res Redbook CD
Hi All.
Putting together a reference level system.
My Source is predominantly standard 16/44 played from a MacMini using iTunes and Amarra. Some of my music is purchased from iTunes and the rest is ripped from standard CD's.
For my tastes in music, my high def catalogues are still limited; so Redbook 16/44 will be my primary source for quite some time.
I'm not spending DCS or MSB money. But $15-20k retail is not out of the question.
Upsampling vs non-upsampling?
USB input vs SPDIF?
All opinions welcome.
And I know I need to hear them, but getting these ultra $$$ DAC's into your house for an audition ain't easy.
Looking for musical, emotional, engaging, accurate , with great dimension. Not looking for analytical and sterile.
Putting together a reference level system.
My Source is predominantly standard 16/44 played from a MacMini using iTunes and Amarra. Some of my music is purchased from iTunes and the rest is ripped from standard CD's.
For my tastes in music, my high def catalogues are still limited; so Redbook 16/44 will be my primary source for quite some time.
I'm not spending DCS or MSB money. But $15-20k retail is not out of the question.
Upsampling vs non-upsampling?
USB input vs SPDIF?
All opinions welcome.
And I know I need to hear them, but getting these ultra $$$ DAC's into your house for an audition ain't easy.
Looking for musical, emotional, engaging, accurate , with great dimension. Not looking for analytical and sterile.
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George, Precisely why I addressed my inquiry to Steve N who by all accounts has been successful manufacturing R2R and DS DACs and is a credentialed source. There are unquestionably other builders capable of using either circuit type in DACs. Since he is a knowledgeable contributor to this thread I was interested in his opinion of multibit/R2R "bit perfect " practical or real world audible attributes. . Charles |
Steve N who by all accounts has been successful manufacturing R2R and DS DACs and is a credentialed sourceYes Charles but as I said not discrete R2R. he has to use either DS or the Hybrid. Or he could purchase "discrete" R2R made boards from Sokeris Audio Engineering but he’ll loose his dsd capability, which means nothing to me, as it was pcm before it became that. Here as of 2017 (more now) are the companies now doing expensive to produce "discrete" R2R ladder dacs for PCM (Redbook) replay. Schiit uses a R2R chip (not for audio) but for missile guidance as there are none now available for audio use, because DS was so much cheaper to make. Up to $3k: Border Patrol, Monarchy, Denafrips, Audio-gd, MHDT, Holo, Soeskris, Metrum, Schiit $5-$15K: Audio Note, MSB, Metrum, Computer Audio Design, Aqua, LessLoss, Totaldac, Lampizator $15K+: CH Precision, Aries Cerat, Light Harmonic, Audio Note, MSB, Totaldac, Lampizator **Special mention to MSB, Monarchy and Audio Note, who never gave up R2R. Even after the takeover of delta-sigma. Cheers George |
To be very clear I’m not disputing the notion of multibit being bit perfect but rather how is it manifested as a demonstrably superior quality above and beyond DS capabilities. I don’t hear this purported advantageous asset with comparisons as stated earlier. If I'm not mistaken , bit perfect applies to discrete R2R and multibit R2R chips. |
I don’t hear this purported advantageous asset with comparisons as stated earlier. That fine if you can't, but I do with CD's 16/44 or the magic sounding Reference Recordings 24/96 CD's that have HDCD encoded which my Linn CD12 thankfully can do with the PMD200 chip. The best which I've yet to hear from what I've been told is DXD. I've heard the defunct DVD-A which was very good, better than the Reference Recordings above it's a pity it didn't take off. This is a good read from MSB Technologies, they use R2R Ladder in their top line dacs. (big bucks) http://www.msbtechnology.com/faq/why-ladder-dacs/ Cheers George |
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