Why Aren't More Speaker Designers Building Augmented Widebanders?
Here is a widebander that I think has push and pull....push because most speaker buyers aren't thinking widebander....pull because its got good reviews, budget price and support by decware...i haven't pulled (no pun intended) the trigger yet but I've been tempted!! http://www.caintuckaudio.com/ check out the decware video http://www.decware.com/newsite/Caintuck.html |
Here is a widebander that I think has push and pull....push because most speaker buyers aren't thinking widebander....pull because its got good reviews, budget price and support by decware...i haven't pulled (no pun intended) the trigger yet but I've been tempted!!I own the Betsy. Pairs nicely with SEP or SET. With my REL sub it's tough to beat. |
Hi guys, I've been out of pocket for about a week, just saw this. @cellcbern up front, I need to say that I've never heard your speaker... But, I have played with this 3 inch Tang Band and it is very good indeed. I agree completely with Erik about the 2K crossover point. In fact, might even argue that the 535 hz crossover quoted above could be harder to negotiate because it is clearly in the middle of the male and female vocals both. In the end, it is really up to the designer to be able to seamlessly integrate the drivers being used and as you have eluded to, many cannot make that integration. |
Timlub- funny, I’m using the 3” TB W3-2141 for full range duties. The 535 Hz crossover gave the flattest response without breaking the bank in caps and coils. I can’t discern the crossover point when listening, and the speakers pretty much disappear. But, it’s a challenge; I spent about 18 months with software, drivers, more filter designs than I can count and cabinet parameters before I got it right, to my ears at least. |
Here is a paragraph excerpted from Laurence Borden's July 2014 review of
the earlier Bache 001 for Dagago. I think it gets to the heart of the
augmented widebander advantage: "In a typical 3-way speaker, the crossover point between the midrange and tweeter is typically between 1 and 2 kHz, which is smack-dab in the region to which our ear is most sensitive. No matter how well designed a crossover might be, the tweeter and midrange drivers invariably differ in their dispersion characteristics, transient response, and distortion characteristics. Making matters worse, the crossover often introduces phase shifts. Although these differences are often not recognized per se (except in especially poor implementations), they become apparent when they are absent, as they are in a speaker based on a wideband driver. As implemented in the Bache Audio speakers, the Tangband covers the range from about 100 Hz to about 10,000, or almost seven octaves. Not surprisingly, they are superbly coherent. As a result, music has a wholeness — or oneness, if you prefer — that makes it seem more lifelike. One has a sense of being more relaxed while listening, a trait I find very desirable in a speaker. Not surprisingly, instruments that span many octaves — like the piano — are especially well served, yet all instruments benefit". Here's the link to the full review: https://www.dagogo.com/bache-audio-001-loudspeaker-review |
