hi guys, well i went and heard the Magicos (the ones that sell for right at 30K) and they were very very impressive. they were driven by VTL electronics and they were streaming using a Berkeley DAC. the sound was amazingly clear, like a set of quads but with upper and lower frequency extension. the level of detail and articulation was amazing and i had to ask if the REL subs were on (they were not), as the bass was so good. truthfully if money was not an issue, i think i would prefer them over the Thiels but not 100% sure about that. there is something about the way the 3.7's do music that is captivating in a way that these were not. But i think we get used to a certain sound and we have to retrain our ears. Kind of like driving a new car as they all feel and handle differently. The thing is, i did not come home and find my system lacking or disappointing. In fact, i enjoyed it just as much so there you have it. if i were looking for new speakers, Magico along with Joseph Audio, would be on my short list, along with the upcoming speakers from PS Audio, but for right now and for years to come, i will still be a Thiel guy.