Cartridge Loading- Low output M/C

Dear @almarg : " basically saying ", now I understand you and now your advise is useful when the post of the atmasphere it's not for the OP.

But he always post with a hidden agenda that sooner or latter comes out like in this regards:

for a few time ago he was posting here and elsewhere the same about that capacitance LOMC issue and he just posted here:

"  People often ask me how I get such low noise reproduction without ticks and pops and that is the secret. "

why he posted that? no one is asking for but he did it because he is a seller a very agressive seller that always post with a hidden agenda. Now, the ones that read here know that his electronics are just " perfect ".

I'm not against any manufacturer as him what is not valid is to post trying not really to help ( as you ) but to sell " something ". It's the same with TP tonearms and everything where he has or look for a bu$ine$$.

"""  Raul prefers digital audio... no idea why he posts here  ""

well I don't know why this forum permits to a seller to promotes in an audiophile threads because he never gives an advice as an audiophiile but as a seller. He is not like J.Carr that posted and post in Agon and other forums and you will never read JC promoting anything he doings only gives honest advices as an audiophile. 

Time to report it.

R.

Raul, All you have to do is have a stable phono section. I'm not the only one that makes one by any means. JCarr is aware of this issue and he offers phono sections as well. Nelson Pass seems to be as well, his phono sections work without ticks or pops too. I think we can add Jim Hagerman to that list. His website has a lot of useful information on this topic:http://www.hagtech.com/loading.html
It seems to me that the real problem is that you now realize that you have ticks and pops and now you know a reason for it that you didn't before. That sort of revelation usually doesn't sit well with a person that likes to think they have everything sorted out.

Atmasphere- I appreciate all your insight and help. I currently have no ticks and pops with my analog setup.VPI Prime-Plinius Koru-Pass Labs Integrated 60 -Phono Cable is VPI with ground-Interconnect from Phono pre to the Pass Integrated is AudienceAU 24 i XLR. BTW my cartridge is an Ortofon Black Quintet.
With that said...because I have no issues currently-does this suggest that I have a stable phono section?
Thanks in advance.

No, it does not necessarily mean that you have a phonostage that is behaving like Atmasphere described; you are utilizing extreme loading (22 ohms) which would prevent overloading from ultrasonic signals, and to some extent, the sharp transients of a tick or pop.  You should try your current setup with the loading set at 47k ohms (or totally unloaded, if that option is available) to see what happens.  Just experiment with all loading options, and with each setting, leave it at that setting for some time so that your ear/brain gets acclimated to the new sound.  

To me, utilizing high loading (low value of resistor) takes away a lot of what one hopes to get out of moving from run of the mill MM cartridges to a MC cartridge--the vibrancy, liveliness and top end extension is wiped away.  If your set up sounds "wrong" with more modest loading, such as 100 ohms, something might be wrong elsewhere.

@atmasphere : Wrong, my Phonolinepreamp is designed in the rigth way. As I said you are not dicovering the black thread, at least not for me.

One gentleman that can attest about those absence thicks/pops that you think I have is @cardani whom attend to my place not one but several times and he can chimes on it.

No the issue is that the advise is really useless. Please think that any audiophile already owns an audio system where as @krelldog only want advice to load his new carrtridge. He already has a phono stage and cables with a level of capacitance that normally for MC stages can’t change about and we have to live with what we own.
Where can we try to change capacitance?, maybe with a different IC cable but exist one problem almost no one of the cable manufacturers gives the cable capacitance value, here is an example in a very expensive cable:

https://www.kimber.com/products/KS-1236

so now, we have to own a voltimeter/multimeter to measure our own cable and how can we decide for which change it? and if we change it how can we know it works as the theory says?, yes, we can buy another one and another one till we find out the one that could help because we can’t eliminate at 100% those thicks/pops no matter what. Additional we already own a tonearm that the tonearm manufacturers normally ( few does it. ) does not gives the tonearm internal capacitance.

I have no problem in my system but add the capacitance/MC issue to all " thousands " of critical subjects that we have to take in count to achieve a decent analog experiences makes no sense to me when many audiophiles ( including me. ) are trying not only to understand but to obtain information of the best way for match tonearm with a cartridge, its correct alignment, loading, setting-up: VTA/SRA, VTF, AZ, AS, platter mat, clamps, TT plattforms, phono stage RIAA deviation, Phono stage noise/distortion levels, Phono stage output impedance, etc, etc etc

There are priorities and the capacitance is certainly not a critical priority because normally is out of each one of us control. Lucky the ones that has the rigth phono stage but that capacitance subject is not for any one can " lost " his dream. It’s not practically.

@krelldog, read what @larryi posted and forgeret of all those capacitance issue that you don’t have it.

R.