Interconnects and non-believers

aalenik,

Though you were joking, to be clear I’m not remotely angry and felt I was being conciliatory.

And I understand you aren’t asking me to believe just on your say so.
(No more than I’d ask you to believe anything just because I say so).

I’ve known and/or spoken to a great number of audiophiles, high end salesman and manufacturers (as I suspect any of us have who have been in this hobby for many decades) and I think most manufacturers believe in their product and their various claims, and aren’t trying to hoodwink people. That’s why I’d written: "And btw, it doesn’t even have to be cynical or deliberate: people selling high end speakers certainly can and do believe in break in."

That said...when it comes to cables, given one can find companies charging up to $10,000 for an ethernet cable, I reserve the right to a special level of suspicion about the cynicism hiding in the audiophile cable industry.

prof,

You will have to have the last word on this subject (you won’t allow it any other way!)
Your extensive rationalizations have worn me out.

rvpiano,

Sorry, didn't mean to wear you out.  Don't respond if you don't feel like it, but if you even just ignore my last post to you, I would still be curious about your answer to one question.

You'd said there was a degree of hype and self-delusion in our hobby.

How do you think we could determine hype from substance, and just as important, self-delusion from reality?

Nelson Pass has a lot to learn on this topic.


IC`s: 2xVivanco KX-710 pr lenght, only inner cores connected. Makes the ultimate* IC, rca or xlr. One single KX-710 makes the ultimate digital coax.

*100% inaudible


Too bad I can`t upload pics here or I would have shown you how to do the rca`s. WBT-type plug 

You know, it’s nice to be skeptical. I am a very big skeptic. But the difference, I think, between me and a lot of skeptics, especially self styled skeptics, is that eventually I get down to business and try to figure out what the ding dong is going on myself. After all, it doesn’t make sense to be so overly skeptical of an idea, a device, a product, a phenomenon forever or rely on others to figure it out. Or perhaps not care if the issue ever gets settled as that would end the debate and spoil the party. 🍻

Skepticism is a human trait, not a lifetime occupation. At some point don’t you have to roll up your sleeves and take matters into your own hands and try to get to the bottom of things? You can’t leave it to others to settle whatever beef 🍔 you may have. This is the difference between skeptics who talk a good game, who know the Skeptic’s Handbook inside out, and skeptics who are curious enough to take the bull by the horns. 🐃

I am rather suspicious, naturally, of any self-proclaimed skeptic who maintains that audiophiles are deluded or that products are hyped. This “Uber Skepticism” is ill conceived and unwarranted, in my opinion. This is not evidence of a questioning mind so much as someone who just enjoys asking a lot of questions. At some point it’s probably time to fish or cut bait. 🦈

your friend and humble skeptic