Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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And one that sounds as good as if not better than the World’s Most Modded Oppo 103.
Makes one wonder if all those tweaks and mods resulted in improved sound.
@glupson

I don’t know if you read my post before certain persons-who-dish-it-out-on-their-own-website-but-flag-critical-posts-here got their way and had it removed but...

You are experiencing just what I wrote about. “Walking” is simply a term the OP applies as he wishes, arbitrarily. If you are at all critically minded you will never have that term used for whatever you try.

You are dealing with a religious type of behaviour. It’s like prayer: negative results will never be counted. If you don’t get the claimed results, it can only be you who is to blame. You are doing it wrong! Yay for unfalsifiable beliefs!
tomcy6
Geoffkait: And one that sounds as good as if not better than the World’s Most Modded Oppo 103.

Makes one wonder if all those tweaks and mods resulted in improved sound.

>>>>Don’t strain your brain on my account. 🧠 🥊


prof
If you don’t get the claimed results, it can only be you who is to blame. You are doing it wrong!

Bingo! That’s what I’ve been saying! 

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