Jazz for aficionados

The "hippest" is never the most popular, which is why KOB is the most popular; it's just not as "jazzy" AKA hip as "Somethin Else". Only the true connoisseurs of jazz can make such distinctions.

Miles did what sidemen do on records, he played great solos, but it was Cannonballs music.



Compare "Love For Sale" on SE, and the same tune on Miles record.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tSYXpq2kW0




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i6wNgg5kq4



Miles's sounds like Miles, not Cannonball; it's much different, even when he's playing the solos on both tunes; that was Cannonball's music on Cannonball's album.

Happy Holiday, everyone!

Thanks for the link acman3. And great Stitt clip; nice segue to the Cosby bit! Notice how toward the end of his comedy bit Bill Cosby sings “Cherokee” in the same key (the original key) that Sonny Stitt plays it in. Very hard to pull that out of the blue and hear the key, especially in a context like that. The guy had (s?) some real musical talent as well. What a shame he has such a dark side.

guswatte, welcome to the thread. Very eclectic trio of recordings. I’m intrigued by Anna Maria Jopek: Minione (collaboration with Rubalcaba), Haiku and will check it out.

O-10, I am glad you hold SE in such high esteem; I do as well. I guess I am not a “true connoisseur of jazz” capable of recognizing what is the hippest. Since I am not, I will only sheepishly point out a couple of things about the comparison you pose:

On SE’s “Love For Sale” Cannonball doesn’t even play the tune. The opening and closing statements of the melody are by Miles. Cannonball doesn’t even play at all for a full two and a quarter minutes. Secondly, I would respectfully suggest you listen to KOB a little more before passing judgment. Had you done so, perhaps you would have known that “Love For Sale” doesn’t appear on KOB at all. That recording is from a different record.

What’s on the grill today fellows? Pork chops with a pineapple glaze over here. Enjoy!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H0pvrG3oMuA

The point was not who's playing the tune but the feel of the music, which was Cannonball's.

Blame "you tube" for posting that KOB cover, that was not my point; my point was Miles version of "Love For Sale" no matter what album, was so different from Cannonball's version.

It's the leader who determines the "feel" of the album and music, which is why one "Love For Sale" sounds so different from the other, even when the same person (Miles Dewey Davis) is playing both versions.

Just as I detest vocalists who scat inappropriately in order to demonstrate their virtuosity, when the story line of the song absolutely does not call for it; I'm not in love with artists who interject their "stylistics" in a fashion beyond the story line of the song.

"Love For Sale" is a hauntingly beautiful song about a streetwalker who has love for sale, but she would rather have true love, which is not for sale.

Miles love for sale captures Miles, while Cannonball's version captures the haunting beauty of the song.