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Best used integrated for under $5000

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I am in the process of building a new dedicated stereo system and looking for both speakers and an integrated. For speakers as of right now I am leannng towards either used Rockport Atria (if I can find one) or Focal Sopra 2 (if no Atria comes around in 6 months). 

I am am moving to NY in 6 weeks and therefore don’t really know what the room dimensions will be. 

Sound I like :

1. A tad bit warm while still having a lot of punch (nothing muddled about it)
2. Vocals (Diana Krall, John Mayer etc) have a level of cleanliness to it
3. Guitar (Gipsy kings, Jesse cook) sound airy without being lean
4. It may be related to my first point above; forgiving of average source (eg high quality Spotify streaming, which isn’t that high quality after all )

Most of my source will be Tidal and strong preference for integrated amps with a built in DAC. Even better if the unit has a streamer as well. Otherwise I am planning to use Google chrome cast (is that a bad idea). 

As of right now my list has Hegel h360, Lyngdorf and Moonaudio 340i. 

I am planning to buy used. That means new prices probably could be as high as $10000. 

It would be great to get some recommendations. 
marrduk24
yyzsantabarbara
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@marrduk24 I am keeping my eye on the following shootout by one of the dealers represented here on A'Gon. His Kinki integrated ($2.4K new) is getting a lot of positive feedback. I have also been looking at the Coda Integrated (($5K new) for a while. Neither have the built in DAC but that is not a big deal when a decent DAC can be had for low cost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVFDMhWSIes

I am also excited to read up on the BAT VK-3000SE that is mentioned on this thread. I was shaking my head thinking why I had not consider BAT before.  I owned a BAt VK-42SE preamp for a long time and loved it. Based on my experieince with the BAT sound, the BAT VK-3000SE ($6K new) looks like it may be a worthwhile contender for the Magico A3 speaker I am going to audition at the end of the month. It also has no DAC but the price is low for the integrated.

All 3 Integrateds I listed here are of the high current variety.

@audiotroy  Nice looking site and I like the way you have listed the products you carry. Very useful since I know you guys are always auditioning and comparing gear. The site loads a little slow.
doni
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If you go with the Hegel, I believe it has an ethernet input which will allow you to stream Tidal, etc., directly to the DAC via Airplay.  This can be done from a PC with Windows, or, of course, via ipad or iphone.  My H160 allows this, and the sound is pretty good.
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dave_b
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I auditioned the Hegel 360 but couldn’t warm up to it...sounded a bit flat and cool. That’s coming from a guy who loves his Krell Vanguard!  Somehow the Krell straddles the fence better between detail and musicality.
david_ten
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@audiotroy Congratulations on your new site. Looks good, despite being worked on. The Cube roll is neat. : )
co93
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If you can find one, my 1st choice recommendation would be an Accuphase E-470 or E-370.  But make sure its a US distributed unit.  Second I'd suggest Hegel or Pass.  Great gear.  (I now have a Hegel Integrated, an Accuphase, and a Vitus (best of them all), and Luxman.  I've also had Pass and Plinius in the past.

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