Ohm Walsh Micro Talls: who's actually heard 'em?


Hi,

I'd love to hear the impressions of people who've actually spent some time with these speakers to share their sense of their plusses and minuses. Mapman here on Audiogon is a big fan, and has shared lots on them, but I'm wondering who else might be familiar with them.
rebbi
Rb,

I use my 100S3s in my two channel a/v system for A/V.

Speaker position is key to get a clean center channel image with 2 OHM mains in lieu of an actual center channel speaker. The speakers may need to be closer together and/or further out from the wall. Other items/obstacles nearby may have an effect on the reflected sound including a the tv in between. It all depends. More description/pictures of your setup would make it easier to help troubleshoot.
Thanks map, pictures to come. The main issue will be that the TV is on an Ikea Expedit bookcase like this one: http://fatelessmusic.com/newsite/wp-content/themes/ikea-expedit-bookcase-7218.jpg
so they can only be so close.

I guess I could move the speakers in front of that, although I don't think my girlfriend will be pleased and it may look weird. Alternatively, I could pull the bookcase away from the wall and put the speakers behind it, although that will probably cause it's own sound issues.
rbf, my setup as pictured Here had similar issues when first set up as in the picture. Moving the OHMs forward 6-12 inches and moving the TV back to the rear of the table so that there was more distance to both TV and walls behind resolved the issue for me.
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I moved them forward and in front of the shelf a bit and it got better, but it still needs some positioning work.
I think the Ohm's can do a pretty good job of the phantom center, but as Map and other's have commented, speaker positioning is very much the key, and typically is still somewhat of a compromise.

With my setup using a 55" screen sitting on a stand that is just the width of the screen(kind of a lowboy stand), my walsh 3/3000's are about 9 feet apart and my listening position(about 6.5-7' from plane of speakers) is pretty much centered to lock the dialog/center in. But things still get a bit off once you move out of a small window. While the Ohm's manage a great soundstage for 2-channel music, I do think multi-channel is a different thing and can be tough to do with only 2 speakers.

The other thing is that each Ohm speaker can needs to basically "see" the other one in order for things to work well to begin with, so if any one of the speakers is blocked from the other one by the screen, cabinets etc., this will tend to throw the balance of things off, and you will not obviously get the staging right. So, clear paths between them is the way to go.

As a side note, I would recommend the Ohm Micro Walsh omni version for surround duties, very good in this mode. I even find them to be quite amazing for simple 2-channel L/R listening.

Enjoy your Ohm's guys! Tim