Ohm Walsh Micro Talls: who's actually heard 'em?

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I moved them forward and in front of the shelf a bit and it got better, but it still needs some positioning work.

I think the Ohm's can do a pretty good job of the phantom center, but as Map and other's have commented, speaker positioning is very much the key, and typically is still somewhat of a compromise.

With my setup using a 55" screen sitting on a stand that is just the width of the screen(kind of a lowboy stand), my walsh 3/3000's are about 9 feet apart and my listening position(about 6.5-7' from plane of speakers) is pretty much centered to lock the dialog/center in. But things still get a bit off once you move out of a small window. While the Ohm's manage a great soundstage for 2-channel music, I do think multi-channel is a different thing and can be tough to do with only 2 speakers.

The other thing is that each Ohm speaker can needs to basically "see" the other one in order for things to work well to begin with, so if any one of the speakers is blocked from the other one by the screen, cabinets etc., this will tend to throw the balance of things off, and you will not obviously get the staging right. So, clear paths between them is the way to go.

As a side note, I would recommend the Ohm Micro Walsh omni version for surround duties, very good in this mode. I even find them to be quite amazing for simple 2-channel L/R listening.

Enjoy your Ohm's guys! Tim

Rbf-I just looked at your pics of your setup and I feel that the way you have your MWT's toed in is really going to mess up your staging big time, unless this is just them sitting there for fun. You should have them with the fronts of the speaker more straight on and they could use spreading apart by a bit more. If the image is still not quite the way you want it to be, try toeing them out versus in the way they are now. Slight adjustments at first until you get them locked in.

The way you have them toed currently is going to more or less send your image/treble right at the TV screen versus out toward you. The tweeters are at a diagonal/45 degrees so you need to somewhat sit intersecting that line. At any rate, they look nice, would like to see a better up close photo of yours. I like the black, are you satisfied with the fit and finish, and the grills look okay to you? Hope this helps some. Enjoy them! Tim

RBF,

If you play a mono recording, and sit in front of the OHMs, where does the sound appear to come from?

I find the center of the OHM soundstage tends to be the center of the rear wall behind them which may not be the same as the center between the speakers where the TV is when the speaker location is skewed to the right or left of center. Yours appear to be skewed significantly left, so it would not surprise me if the center of teh soundstage as you would hear with a mono recording is skewed to the right of teh TV location between the speakers. The TV may need to be more in the middle of the rear wall for it to work.

Also, if you listen from to the left or right in front of the speakers, the soundstage and its center will likely shift to the right and left accordingly as opposed to sitting dead center.

Thanks for the advice so far. Moving them a little farther apart and toeing out a bit made a drastic improvement. I don't think I've quite nailed it yet, but it's getting there!