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Speed kills....

Which is why I love 'stats so much.  For myself, dynamics and leading edge transients are essential.  Are there any alternatives in terms of dynamic "boxey" type (verity?) speakers that I should listen to?  My present speakers are hales t8's (hales has been out of business a long time ago) and they are about as far away from that ideal as you can get.   I want to go in a different direction for my FINAL set of speakers.

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bdp24
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Erik, there is a reason loudspeaker designers still work hard to get theirs to sound as natural (lifelike timbres, especially vocals) as the 1957 Quad ESL. Limitations yes, but not at what's most important to some music lovers. Add a pair or quad of dipole subs, and you may forget about what they don't do.
inna
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Another excellent post by Duke.
I'll just say that we don't want exaggerated unnatural speed and dynamics. Another point - do we want to correct the recording with equipment and speakers ? My position - theoretically yes, in reality - do no harm first than correct if you can.
Amp/speakers/room - delivering unit, source - driving unit. And a few wires.
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Duke, that was one of the most lucid, informative responses I've read in any forum.  

erik_squires
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@bdp24

Erik, there is a reason loudspeaker designers still work hard to get theirs to sound as natural (lifelike timbres, especially vocals) as the 1957 Quad ESL.

Can you point out specific evidence or is this your personal assumption?

Limitations yes, but not at what’s most important to some music lovers. Add a pair or quad of dipole subs, and you may forget about what they don’t do.

I’m not saying otherwise, just wanted to suggest to arm chair speaker designers that the perception of speed comes from the dispersion alone.

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Erik, did you meant to say "the perception of speed does NOT come from dispersion alone"? Or is that in fact the main tenet of your assertion?

For speaker designers who have used the Quad 57 as their standard for natural timbre reproduction, I’ve read that in interviews many times over the years (more than a few designers have Quads in their labs), most recently by Roger Modjeski, who said in an AudiogoN post that he voiced his new Music Reference Direct-Drive ESL speaker with the 57---Eric.

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