Thiel Owners

jon - Our community was not so formal as to have a name or designated ideology. The early 70s were full of societal change and we were part of that. I had been a brother in the Marianist, Catholic teaching order through college engaged in Peace through social justice, ethical war resistance, urban poor empowerment, right technology in the developing world  .  .  . and so forth. I then  married and had a child, but wanted to continue a collective enterprise, and opened my doors to a group which included my brother Jim, and a few mutual friends. We bought land on the Cumberland Plateau to form a sustainable living enterprise and needed a shared employment project, which became Thiel Audio. Of course this sketch is the bare bones synopsis.

From the beginning we shared all funds, responsibilities and development of common direction. Religion or traditional belief was not a part of our commune; the experiment was social, not spiritual. Its end was more of a mutation than anything else. By the mid 90s, it was clear that my focus of creating a "good place for good people to earn a good living doing good work for the good of all" was no longer appreciated as a driving force. Rather, the survival needs of the business were what consumed everyone's around the clock attention. It took me 5 years to objectify the manufacturing systems and personnel enough that I could leave without damaging the enterprise. Its growth and development continued. I am proud of that.

There are many things in audio that can be heard but not explained. The human ear/mind is not the same as an oscilloscope or any other measuring device. Measurements are good to have but they cannot fully inform what we experience when listening to music (and not even partially inform the emotional part of our experience).

Yes, it can be measured but it's not trivial and something as subtle as cable break-in, you need really sensitive equipment and not to mention the knowledge of how to use those equipment.  But the principle of cable burn in is well established (look up electro-migration) so there is no point to reinvent the wheel.

As for speaker driver break-in, it has been measured.  That is why speaker designers only measure the various speaker driver parameters only when the drivers already well broken-in.

Please andy2, not here with the burn-in cable stuff.

(And a google of electromigration certainly does yield anything that establishes warrant for the cable-burn-in claims made by audiophiles/manufacturers.  But best to  make your claim in that thread in the other forum dedicated to this debate). 

prof

Thanks. 

Did one of my occasional searches on hi fi shark.   Various speaker brands.

Boy has the used market on Thiel 3.7 and 2.7s dried up!  So few for sale for quite a while.  Looks like most people are keeping theirs!