Power conditioner or outlet?


I have a Shunyata MPC-12a power conditioner. Read that it was a good choice for audio equipment so I bought it. I also have high end power cords to all my equipment, as well as to my Shunyata.

I have recently read comments from listeners that you should plug your amp/preamp straight into the wall. Is that the case if you have a good power conditioner? I will do so if it is a better option, just concerned about no surge protection for the amps...but also don't want degraded sound! I am asking this because I am a newbie at all this, more money than audio sense. I am interested if anyone might have any experience in this
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easola01
Like every tread that asked for others experience you'll receive
every side of a rubik's cube full of opinions .
So here is my side and my opinion , until recently most power conditioners could not handle the high current of power amps so
plugging them into the wall was recommended ,
which is where I plug my amp into .  
I have an isolation transformer that I plug my
turntable , phono preamp and CD player into , an isolation transformer
eliminates DC voltage and separates the ground from neutral .
I do not have a power conditioner , I went a different way .
I have all my electrical equipment plugged into Tripp-Lite
Isobar surge protectors , Refrigerator,  TV system , Deep Freezer , computers and Clock Radios ( I read where they are very noisy ) .
Years ago I had my stereo equipment plugged into one when my house lost the neutral feed , all I had was 2 x 120 lines entering the house , turn a light and bang . We lost a refrigerator , clock radios and a toaster
but my stereo system was saved AND
Tripp-lite sent me a new Isobar , they have " isolated " outlets ,
they filter between outlets so I am cleaning some of the noise before it gets onto the houses AC.
I also have 5 PS Audios noise harvesters on the circuit that my stereo system is on , as well as Green Wave filters on the circuits with motors like the refrigerator and deep freezer , and AudioPrism Quite Line noise filters on any circuit that does not have a Green Wave on it.

One misconception some have is that if you have a dedicated power line
that you are eliminating noise from other sources in your house ,
all that does is allow for fast current draw and no problems with connections .

I read another post about an electrical panel of 200 amps only being able to pass 200 amps , the ratings are for constant draw ,
a powerful amp on a 20 amp circuit could have instantaneous demands for 50 or more amps without tripping the breaker in the panel .

You could buy one power conditioner or you could try to protect everything in your house as well cleaning the electrical noise at the sources , theoretically everything should operate a little better ,
I know the TV systems seem to look and sound a little better .
And after moving the 3 different electrical noise cleaners around and finding how each one produced different effects I have a very clean sounding stereo system .
All together my little separates cost less that $750 .

Good Luck
Rob

P.S. I had taken my PS Audio Noise Harvesters over to my friends house, we plugged them in one at a time into both his Furman power conditioner and just the wall outlets ( before and after the incoming current on the AC line ) . The most improvement was heard when using all 5 that I have plugged into an outlet strip that was plugged into the outlet that his power conditioner was plugged into .
So even with a quality power conditioner you can improve your sound with other " filters " that are non-invasive .








Vair68robert.....wow, complicated! For me at least. I don't understand all of that, you have obviously invested a great deal of research in coming up with all this. What I think I do understand is I should invest in these ps audio harvesters in addition to my power conditioner? This would improve sound...is that right?
Vair68....probably not......you must listen and return if it doesn't perform in your system.  I tried Audioquest harvesters and boy were they awful ....closed in and grained up the sound
I installed a whole house surge protector on my main breaker panel and another on my Geothermal unit. 

But, when I am aware of lightening events, I still unplug.

ozzy
easola01
Yes surprisingly we heard an improvement in sound quality 
when adding PS audio noise harvesters to a system with a Furman power conditioner, 2 minimum ,
I really liked when when we got up to # 5 ( I thinking of a few more )
I do not have a power conditioner or AC regenerator .
stringreen
When I was trying the Green Wave , Audio Prism and PS Audio noise harvesters I had unplugged everything in the house and one at a time I would plug one of those filters in where my refrigerator was plugged in and listen . This is how I determined that the Green Wave was best being plugged into the outlets with motors .  
As for the PS noise Harvesters , They are only on my circuit that supplies my stereo and for me they improved the sound  and when my furnace motor runs the lights go crazy " eliminating " the noise .
Ozzy
great idea , covers everything for surges .

Happy Friday
Homemade Pizza night 
Rob