Green Mountain Audio Chroma HX


Hi, Folks,
Do any of you have any experience with the latest iteration of Roy Johnson's Green Mountain Audio Rio stand mount? He's upgraded the crossover and internal wiring, and it's now called the Chroma HX.
Any impressions?
Thanks!

rebbi

"I just upgraded from the chroma 2 to the HX version of the GMA RIO . The results were amazing!! much better cohesion across the frequency spectrum . The detail was also improved. I have owned many highly rated speakers and none of them come close to the overall musicality of the RIO HX." - Steven Cochran

"...these speakers have a very natural musical sound. They are for music lovers." - dbb

"Yes I have owned chromas and I hated them." - kenjit

Hmmm.

Kenjit, can you describe your room and amplifier? Assuming dbb and Mr. Cochran are not deaf, it is possible that there is a serious problem elsewhere in your system that you are mistakenly attributing to the Chromas.

"Do it on any other high quality speaker and you wont feel a thing because they use a sharper order crossover slops which are much more phase cohesive."

Sharper crossover slopes are NOT "much more phase cohesive". The fact that a steeper crossover can be in-phase at the crossover point does not make the system itself more "phase cohesive" across its passband. And the "phase coherence" that is claimed by everyone and his brother originates in the marketing department: Almost always such designs have either 180 degrees of phase shift with the tweeter’s polarity inverted to put it back "in phase" at the crossover point (but not elsewhere), OR 360 degrees of phase shift which puts the drivers back "in phase" at the crossover point (but not elsewhere) while the woofer lags the tweeter by one cycle, which is hardly "phase coherence".

Duke

dealer/manufacturer/competes against Green Mountain Audio

Kenjit, can you describe your room and amplifier? Assuming dbb and Mr. Cochran are not deaf, it is possible that there is a serious problem elsewhere in your system that you are mistakenly attributing to the Chromas.
Audiokinesis,  it's been a long time since I bought the chromas. It's beyond the point where I'm trying to figure out why they don't sound good. I have already discovered why they don't satisfy me.

The main mistakes / reasons are :

1. Wrong box / woofer combination 
2. The tweeter used in mine were not impedance corrected and not rolling off sufficiently. 
3. Crossover was not optimised 

Kenjit, when you ignore reasonable requests for relevant information that could undermine your position, it starts to look like you have an agenda (aside from your pattern of attacking Green Mountain Audio on this site, as shown by a glance at your posting history). 

Your analysis of the phase characteristics of the Chroma is completely incorrect, demonstrating that you are not qualified to critique the design from a technical standpoint.  (If anyone else is interested I can respond to kenjit's other "technical" criticisms.)

Speakers + amp + room = a system within a system, and blaming one without looking at the other two and how they interact is incomplete at best.  

You have gone well beyond "I didn't like these speakers".  You are clearly not qualified to critique them from a technical standpoint, you clearly have a agenda, and you are evidently averse to divulging information that would undermine your attacks on Green Mountain Audio. 

Duke

Actually yes I am averse because I know what your motive is for asking me about my room which is to then blame the room and discredit me.

You have to remember that the green mountain audio distributor brought the speakers over and set them up himself for a demo. 
He then stayed with me the whole time while I listened to them. He never mentioned anything about the room.
You also have to remember that I've had many other speakers in the same room. The problems with the room still did not prevent me from enjoying some of the sound.
I even took the speakers outdoors and tried another room. Neither changed the outcome. 

Kenjit said, "Actually yes I am averse because I know what your motive is for asking me about my room which is to then blame the room and discredit me."

I think you just discredited yourself yet again.

And how about the amp? Are you afraid to divulge that as well?

You disparage Green Mountain Audio while refusing to divulge information that could undermine your claims.

You have demonstrated that your "technical" analyses are incompetent.

You were dishonest in another thread when you said that Green Mountain Audio did not use measurements. There is no way you could have known something like that, so to make the claim as if you did know is dishonest. And your claim is also untrue.

This is not a court of law, but you have gone way beyond telling the truth (which is that you did not like the Chromas in your room with your amp). You have made statements that are not truthful, and here and now you are refusing to tell the whole truth.

When a witness has been shown to be dishonest in any of these ways, a jury may and often does disregard all of their testimony.

You do not need me to discredit you. 

Duke