Thiel Owners

iambenbryant
Nice catch! Good to see you again. How are you enjoying your CS 2.7 loudspeakers?  Happy Listening!

samzx12
Nice score! The CS 2.7 is a fine speaker indeed. Keep me posted as you massage them with the Mark Levinson or B.A.T. power amp. Happy Listening!

Thank you. I am excited.  Curious to find out which amp will work best. As far as overall sound quality I'd be willing to bet the BAT VK55.  

Hi Tom,

To the point of Seas, Vifa etc. could do "it". We tried for years without success working with the best. It’s not so easy as it might appear.

That is very interesting. Seas and Vifa were some of the very best at the time indeed. I have no doubt at all that is not easy, but I just thought if someone like Seas or ScanSpeak (since Vifa was taken over by SS) were serious enough about it, maybe they could make some very good concentric drivers. The challenge is in the motor design as well as doppler affect of each driver modulating each other. Based on what I read online and what are available off the shelf parts, it seems like the speaker design industry more or less has given up on time-coherent design. With exception for some very few drivers, most drivers has to be designed with at least 12db roll off. For example, Accuton is a very reputable driver makers, but if you use their drivers, you almost have to go with 12db or 24 db roll off. As for Seas and ScanSpeak, with their portfolio of products, only a few drivers can be implemented with first order.

Another things I found interesting is that almost all of Thiel designs use aluminum drivers. To the best of my knowledge, there is no off the shelf aluminum drivers on the market today can be implemented using first order filter because of their inherent break up at high frequency. So you pretty much have to use higher order filter to suppress the break up. So how Thiel did it with first order using their aluminum drivers must require some unique engineering. I think the "wavy mid range" driver of the CS2.7 is one way to minimize the break up. As for the CS2.4, I am just guessing but the mechanical of the rubber surround was meant to solve the break up problem, and whatever it is, it really works.

Hm..., this whole big planet that there is nothing like Thiel? To borrow a phrase from the movie "Contact" which was based on Carl Sagan book, "this whole big universe and our planet is the only source of life?  What a waste of space."

Anyone ever used to visit the old Thiel Web Blog? Hearteningly, it’s still actually accessible. It’s sort of fun...and melancholy...visiting some of those old posts. E.g.:

http://thielaudio.blogspot.com/2006/09/

http://thielaudio.blogspot.com/2006/10/

And especially all the comments, from many industry pros and writers etc, on Jim's passing:

http://thielaudio.blogspot.com/2009/09/please-share-your-memories-of-jim-thiel.html#comment-form

Hi guys, just got back from my Swiss trip and finally was able to audition the Aries Cerat pre-power Impera ll Ref + Concero 65 monos driving Thiel CS 3.7s.Guys you cannot imagine how far the 3.7s can go when driven by Aries Cerat separates, this is a totally different league compared to the usual Krell, Bryston, PS Audio, Pass and other McIntosh amps that have always been used with Thiel speakers.The speakers bring you directly at a live concert with a very refined sound, full body, super transparent but never anlytical, extremely fast and dynamic.The bass is very punchy uber stable and resolving.Soundstage is just phenomenal and very engaging.I can now say that Aries Cerat pre-power outperforms the aleardy awsome Ypsilon separates that i have home demoed in 2016.IMO Aries Cerat is today the absolute best tube amps at any price and most likely the most powerful tube amps capable of driving Thiels to their max.Each Concero 65 monos weigh 100 Kg.Cheers