Turntable got absolutely crushed by CD

Hi. Guys , im not crazy about streaming or TT gear, but im crazy about accuphase gear . I was advised by audiogoners to buy vault and it was good advice for the money I like it . But about tt I didn’t ask for advice, what I did I just wanted to try on my own, so I bought used vpi scout, from music direct new dynavector xx2 mk2 and ps audio nuwave phono , and here we go, have no clue about set up I got simple tool alignment screw down everything together. And all I can say even junk old lp sounds better than my deeper sound stage and warm and everything , compare to accuphase dp78 . Jaw dropping I never knew that lp can sound that good. I wish someone could help me to build analog gear right way. Because the experiment I did come out well .

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I believe your sentence was incomplete...

"Whereas Cleeds’ info was good, and presented fairly and with civility."

It would have been more correct as...

"Whereas Cleeds’ info was good, correct, and interesting and presented fairly, honestly, and with civility."

Out of sheer curiosity, I just tried, more or less, what OP did but with less effort.

Being one of the less biased participants here (I cannot care less what sounds better, in fact), I compared same album on a record and CD with one more added bonus.

CD was Jennifer Warnes’ Famous Blue Raincoat, 20th Anniversary issue, regular one that used to be in stores for $15-20. Record was Jennifer Warnes’ Famous Blue Raincoat, 20th Anniversary issue, 45rpm, 180 g (maybe 200?), Cisco Music limited edition (1833/6000) in mint condition played maybe three or four times before this.

On my, for this forum, low-fi equipment and with no expectations on which one would win, it was beyond simple. To paraphrase/quote OP, record crushed CD. It was really no dispute, not even remotely. Everything, but really everything, was better on the record. For once, it was even quiet like CD. Eerie, to be honest.

Of note, my turntable was set up at some point in a couple of minutes, not months or years as some do. No VTA setting, azimuth, or any other sophisticated measurement. Just 52 mm to needle, set approximately by eyes and with a ruler. Azimuth approximated by staring at it. Kind of what you do when you do not want to spend life tuning-in your turntable. No special stands, isolation, nothing.

This was the result of one record/CD comparison. Not much of a sample, for sure. It made me wonder about all the turntable set-ups and "matching" and whatever else that, sort of, discredited OP’s comparison. It seems to me that turntable is much less important than the record itself. In my case, to the point of "as long as it runs, it is good enough". It may not be in the format, but in execution of it.

I also compared original CD from years before this 20th Anniversary issue wondering what the deal was with "remasters are no good, loudness wars, etc." I read from time to time. Well, remaster was better to me but a little bit of mental bias could change that for someone.

Turntable is Technics SL-Q2 with Soundsmith Otello cartridge. Give OP a break, his stuff is actually decent. My turntable has more years than cartridge hours (20-25-30 hours, I would guess).

Should I add that I think that digital is actually superior format. Even for me whose vinyl life is much simpler than most. No adjustments, no tweaks.

The Warne's Famous Blue Raincoat is a digital recording. 

Digital recording pressed in vinyl vs a digital recording on digital. Now, listen to a real analog recording on analog record vs a the CD of that recording and we can talk.

Also, the VPI arm is way to light for that cartridge.