Turntable got absolutely crushed by CD


Long story short, i've just brought home a VPI classic 1 mounted with a Zu-Denon DL103 on JMW Memorial 10.5 with the appropriate heavier counterweight. Had everything dialed in..perfect azimuth, VTF, overhang, with only a slightly higher than perfect VTA. Levelling checked. All good. 

I did a comparison between the VPI and my Esoteric X03SE and it's not even close. The Esoteric completely crushes the VPI in all regards. The level of treble refinement, air, decay, soundstage depth and width, seperation, tonality, overall coherence is just a simply a league above from what I'm hearing from the VPI. The only area the VPI seems to be better at is bass weight, but not by much. 

I'm honestly quite dumbfounded here. I've always believed that analogue should be superior to digital. I know the Esoteric is a much pricier item but the VPI classic is supposed to be a very good turntable and shouldn't be a slouch either. At this point I feel like I should give up on analogue playback and invest further in digital. 

Has anyone had a similar experience comparing the best of digital to a very good analogue setup?

Equipment:
Esoteric X03SE 
VPI Classic, JMW Memorial 10.5, Zu-DL103
Accuphase C200L
Accuphase P600
AR 90 speakers

Test Record/CD:
Sarah McLachlan - Surfacing (Redbook vs MOV 180g reissue)



chadsort
I understand the argument. The argument is incorrect IMHO. No offense.

Granted, Geoff? Granted what? 

Analog is so very un-economical that it's only worth the price to people who had large record collections when CD's came on board. Although they initially went to CD's, all the fuss about LP's aroused their curiosity.

Since they already had the software, which was half the battle, they rationalized, why not go the rest of they way, even though they knew it was going to cost more than any so called "starter" crap, to hear the LP magic.

Now they're hoping to get young people into the game; why, I don't know, but the absurd economics of hearing the magic will stop that; unless you're talking the ubiquitous "starter analog".




You’re preaching to the wrong choir. I am a true believer in cassettes and their superiority to digital in almost every way, but especially dynamics, which is rather ironic since the big selling point for CDs from the very beginning was their hugely superior dynamic range. Cassettes are also much more realistic and richer in tone imho. But, hey, to each his own. You can cover it up with sampling and bits arguments until the cows come home. 🐄 🐄 🐄 Tape is a natural medium. It breathes.

Elizabeth, if you read between the lines most of us are already "geezers", including yours truly.

Presently, I'm discovering a record collection that I didn't even know I had; mostly in the form of records I had written off, but after a number of upgrades, they're sounding pretty good.

Enjoy the music.
@glupson

If there are armies of vinyl-obsessed people in their teens, twenties, maybe even thirties, on these forums, could you please identify yourselves.


"Teens, twenties, maybe even thirties" have no idea what is a "forum", they are on instagram and facebook. They are also on record fairs every month (buying, selling and trading records) in my town.

We know you exist and vinyl is the only way and digital is horrible and younger crowd threw away their iPhones and Spotify and are fighting for a better place in line while waiting for a record store to open on the day of a new release.

I’m surprised to see so many digital fans in analog section of audiogon forum, but good to know.

Younger crowd actually releasing their own music on vinyl, even if the music is stupid electronic crap, but it’s on vinyl released today. Some people are serious to start their own lable to release 300 LPs of each album or even less on 45s. Most of them does not have any pressing plants in their own country (if they are not in the USA, Germany, Italy, Czech...) Many young people definitely obsessed with vinyl, not all of them, but artistic people, djs, musicians, and even old audiophiles too.

Wal-Mart in the USA may open vinyl department in all of the stores very soon. In fact, given the incredible resurgence of interest in vinyl, Wal-Mart is already too late to the party. And party is full of early twenty-somethings, and not of the crowd who knew nothing better than records in their youth.

I’m 42 and i don’t care about digital music at all, as i said i know nothing better than vinyl and i don’t know any reason to stop buying records. Digital is just a free bonus to watch free movies, to chat, to take digital pictures, to discover music online just to buy it on vinyl later. In fact digital world helps me to find and buy whatever record i want quickly in one click from any part of the world (for this reason i love digital pretty much). If i can buy any vinyl record quickly and easily then why do i need it in digital?

People normally are more serious about something they have to pay for, records for example. They don’t need a bad record if it cost something. Digital cost nothing and people download or streaming tons of information, tons of crap for nothing. My theory is quality not quantity. I only buy record if i really like the music. My obsession is vintage vinyl (mainly 70's, originals)