Retip for zyx


I have an airy3 that is about 5 years old. Zyx does not have a retip, you get a new cartridge for a discount. Has anyone had a zyx retipped and how did you make out?
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@gilles130 

Thanks, but I no longer use/have my ZYX cartridges, so i can't make direct comparison between original and refurbished. 


Received the ZYX Universe, copper coiled low output with the silver base back from Soundsmith a week ago Tuesday. The rebuild was their boron cantilever with the line contact stylus. Installed the cart on my VPI 10 inch 3D arm mounted on a Prime table with periphery ring clamp, BDR clamp or Stillpoints LPS clamp, Single motor flywheel assembly and SDS speed controller, set up was straight forward, VTA level, dressed the wiring for anti skate, set azimuth by eye and tracking set around 2.1 grams and at this point walked away and waited for some time later that eve to get started with this evaluation. Pulled 20 albums that I know very well and were recently familar with played with this cart before the rebuild so at this point felt I had set the table for a good evaluation. My normal process is to clean my stylus with a long bristled stylus brush to knock off any loose dust and then drop it into a jell based stylus cleaner and this was the first sign that things were going right, the Universe is the one cart I have owned where this is almost a silent cleaning when this protocal is used with it, very hard to hear the brush against the stylus. Played the first album and set back with a black Russian (drink) and just fell into a grove, after the first and into the second album I just started enjoying the music, 8 albums later I had to force myself to go to bed. Night 2, I adjusted the VTA a slight bit but back to level again since the suspension seems to have settled in. Long story short, I am very glad to have my Universe back, it is truly the one cart that when it is out of my system I am looking to get it back into my system as soon as possible and the rebuild seems to be very close to the stock one to my ears. Now I am not so naive to think that there is not some differences to the stock verses rebuilt Universes but to my ears and for my money ($462.00) I am looking over my shoulder thinking I really got away with something here and would recommend this rebuild to others as well. I have really been pleased with the 8 carts that I have had rebuilt by Soundsmith, all with the Ruby or Sapphire cantilevered rebuilds, except for the Dynavector DRT XV1s that was still an excellent cart but the tone changed so when the XV1s that I run now needs rebuilt it will get the Boron rebuild. The lesson I take away from this is that no matter what your having rebuilt or retipped, especially if it is one of the top tier carts like the Universe, XV1s or other top model that you consult with your trusted rebuilder to mimic as close as possible the parts being replaced. Enjoy the music, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
To the person who suggested that I should compare a retipped universe to an OEM universe, I can’t do that because I only have one universe cartridge, and it has its original stylus, which has only 50 or so hours on it.

However, tooblue’s experience tends to confirm what we have already been saying, if you choose to re- tip using an after market vendor, it is best to choose cantilever materials and a stylus shape that most closely resemble those of the original.
I have really been pleased with the 8 carts that I have had rebuilt by Soundsmith

It a destiny of MCs 

Personally i don't think it's normal that so many nice (sometimes unique and exotic cartridges) from many different manufacturers/designers are all goes to one person for refurbishing with third-party parts. 

This is one of the reason i love the MM cartridges, at least we can change the cantilever/stylus assembly by ourself in 5 seconds (if we have original replacement) without ruining the sound character of the cartridge. No compromises here. 

Refurbished some special MC cartridges by third-party vendor is always a compromise. Good business for the vendors, but is that good for the cartridge? 

Someone should make a direct comparison of those unique cartridges in stock condition to the refurbished cartridges with different parts (cantilever, stylus). 

Our memories, unfortunately, can not hold the information of particular sound for a month, comparing refurbished cartridge to the memories is not a good idea. We're always biased by the new toys. We have to compare original to refurbished in the real life in the same system. 

We assume that  the ''age limit'' of an MC stylus is, say, 1000-

1500 hours. From this premise one can deduce that either

retip or disposing of is the consequence. Selling in between only

moves the problem to someone else. The dilemma than is either

retip of stylus only, retip with cantilever/stylus combo or refurbishing

by the manufacturer. ''Refurbishing'' is not an clear proposition.

What this means is the exchanging of the whole generator with

stylus/cantilever part. One can imagine that generators are produced

in series and used for different models or bodies. Except Van den

Hul I am not aware of any other producer who does real retips.

However ''our retip fear'' is curious considering the fact that this

repair does list harm in comparison with suspension and coils.

The so called ''moving parts'' are stylus, cantilever and coils+

the joint pipe (aluminum tube) on which those parts are fastened

+ tension wire which connects the generator with the moving

part(s). One can state that retippers get the same cantilever/styli

combos as manufacturers. This however is not the case with

''suspension'' nor coils. This imply that intentions of the designer

can't be realized by an retipper. EMT illustrate, for example,

how complex suspension is. They were not able to improve

their suspension for more than 30 years.