Curious what people think is the best "value" high end speaker (~5K to 15K)

Audio is based on properties. You only have to use your common sense. We are not talking about any kind of rocket science. We care talking about facts.

If you cannot handle the truth that trial and error has no real foundation, the results will always limit your endresults. Again it can be proven by facts and sound.

The remarks are again focused on brands and me personal. It proofs that people still don’t understand audio. You need to understand sound and music first. Like you need to understand all the aspects which influences both sound and stage.

When you cannot accept this, you are the one who limits himself. There is no discussion possible. You need to learn to spend less focus on brands and produts. And focus more on sound and music in general.

This will give you more insight in how audio works and why things sound as they sound.

Why is it so difficult to focus more on sound and music?

"Reviewers are probably the ones with the best suited experiences to do this but since many don’t trust paid reviewers that doesn’t help.

Most reviews are paid, welcome in the world of audio. We talked a lot with many different manufacturers in the last 2 years. The facts proof that they often focus on their products. And that they have little insight and knowledge regarding other audio products.

When we talk about the acoustics, smog, highfrequent noise and magnetism they know even less. Sound is very complex, and that is why you need to understand all aspects.

Folks, it will go away if you don't respond to it.

DFTT (Don't Feed The Troll)

I other words......  let the thread die.  lol

Well, he's got a point about the high frequent noise. It's just too high and way to frequent.  And don't get me started on smog. Fairly ruined Erebor.