Well, we are home now after a long 10 HR day. Went 2 places about 10 miles apart. First stop, JL e110 vs REL t9i. No doubt the Ms and I both agree we love the REL t9i. Just disappears, 3d and just such a real musical sub. I know JL is very well made, but for us, it's REL all the way. They did not have the s3 in stock, mid February which is fine for us, we will be back from vaka and settled in. Before we left we did listen to Rockport, all I can say is WOW, but back to reality 36k my pockets don't go that deep. And the setup with was another 60k. In my dreams. Next stop quick lunch, need to feed the furnace. Stop 3, always my favorite place because the own and staff are just awesome and they just make it fun. This is where the paradigm defiance x12 is, but after talking with John he always brings me back to reality, place that I prefer to stay out of. Lol. He said my weak link is my lexicon dc1. Which I totally agree. He also said i probably could use a little room treatment. Throw rug on the wood floors. So we discussed the anthem avm 60, mrx 720 and marantz 8805. He advised to go with the 720 and save some $$$. I already own a 2ch class A and 3ch amp. He stated for me to set up the 720 and then he will make a road trip to see the room, run arc on pc and go from there. He did say I could take a used fathom and x12 if i wanted. But i should just wait and do 720, then after we check everything out I should bring in the subs and demo in home. I said i like the REL. Lol. He said try it first along with others and then make my choice because every room is different and if I still like REL, I should get them. That's the great thing about going there. He doesn't care if u buy from him, he wants u happy. So this is my plan. And seriously my vandys 2wqs are way over my head, honestly I dont have that kind of knowledge. This room is music and HT. I will eventually do atmos, but no sides do to room configuration. Thanks for all the input, appreciate everyone's help on this and will keep u posted on my adventures. Pete