New Technics turntables

So, the consensus is to buy the 1200 GR even though you don't want or need DJ features? 

Virtually the friend owned until october 2018 3 turntables that sold easily to purchase the SL 1200GR
Technics SP 10 MK2
Technics SL 1015
Technics SL 1025


Setting aside the discussion the 1015 and 1025 and talking about the SP10mk2 this was his:


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He is very happy with the 1200 Gr considers it well built, the quality that is perceived is superb and is very satisfied.

He compared the noise produced by the engine of the SP 10 II and that of the 1200GR with a stethoscope (he is a doctor) in his opinion the noise is non-existent on both and this means that they are very very quiet, has alternating the cartridges he possesses on both and not he noticed better differences passing from the SP10 vs 1200 GR while with different arms.

Unfortunately, the 1200GR looks too much like the old 1200 and this not everyone can like it but the features that the GR has are a must (different set-ups are possible to adjust the brake and the start for example), however he did not notice any differences listening to a comparison between turntables.
Why did you then sell SP 10II after 15 years of happy cohabitation if they sound the equal?
Meanwhile, the 1200 GR is a new and innovative project and in the event of failure, the spare parts will be found in the years to come, while for the SP 10II if something breaks, the parts are no longer found and we must be damned to be able to repair it.

The reason is all there.

But I know that everything is possible to fix repairs so those who want to continue to keep sp 10MK2 can safely do it.

How do you really tell until you get your ears on both? Personally, I prefer a pickup at the end of the record. I wouldn't sacrifice sound quality for it,  but I'd love to hear a 1500C. 

best-groove, If you can re-interpret the following sentence fragment, I might have a better idea of what you're trying to say: "...has alternating the cartridges he possesses on both and not he noticed better differences passing from the SP10 vs 1200 GR while with different arms."  

What was your friend's thinking as regards the stethoscope experiment? (I'm a doctor, too.)  Listening to music using a pair of familiar speakers driven by a known amplifier is the test, assuming neither turntable is grossly malfunctioning.  And yes, one must do the comparison with the same tonearm and cartridge on both turntables, for the results to have meaning. I realize that may be inconvenient if not impossible, because the GR tonearm is fixed.

Finally, I am not at all concerned about the future repairability of any of my already ancient DD turntables.  They are all beautifully made out of materials that will never degrade.  The only moving part that wears is the bearing, and bearings can always be renewed.  The motor and associated electronics are made of parts that can be sourced without recourse to the company that originally built the turntables.  What I would worry about is the continued availability of smart EEs who understand how these things work and are willing to fix them.

@boofer

So, the consensus is to buy the 1200 GR even though you don’t want or need DJ features?

The ONLY "dj feature" is pitch control fader, which is actually a very nice feature even for audiophiles. If you don’t want to change a pitch of music just press the button to bypass it. No harm for audiophile playback.

When a turntable designed for use in the club with high pressure of sound (very loud sound system, deep bass from huge subwoofers near the stage with turntables) is must be a good bonus, becase isolation of the plinth and platter to avoid bass feedback must be superior.  

Any other "DJ feature" is a myth.