high end subwoofer...which one tho?


hi there i'm looking for a used high end sub for home theater use not 2 channel.
i've been looking at the velodyne dd series and jl fathom,
rel, svs possibly (also feel free to make some suggestions)

does anyone know which of these high end subs are the best.
my room is 14x12 with an 8 ceiling.
i also have bass traps everywhere, if that helps.
thanks everyone
nineballg
I use Rythmik subs, but for a dedicated HT set-up, I'd probably choose SVS. Disclaimer - I use a pair of 12" Rythmiks (not 15" which are probably more suitable for HT use). Also note that my comments are based on comparison of the performance test data I used to choose the Rythmiks, NOT on any actual listening session comparing the two brands.

The test data were useful because they illustrate the difference in the design priorities between Rythmik and SVS. In a nutshell, SVS optimizes sub bass and Rythmik deep bass. For reference purposes, in a 12" model, the SVS start to pull away below app. 35hz (anechoic).

The Rythmiks allow maximum control over the driver's damping and this allows a lot of flexibility in optimizing the match to mains for music. The design trade off (vs. a similarly priced SVS unit) is that there's a bit less clean SPL capability, which may well be audible on an the sub bass info in an effects track (though it's very unlikely to ever be a problem for music). I would (and did) prioritize the former for my 2 channel music only system, but I'd go with the latter for HT use.

Again, YMMV.

Good Luck

Marty
One quick additional thought:

In a smallish room, you're not going to need a monster sub - and a 15" model from any of the brands that have been recommended here will likely provide crushing bass capability in your room. The 12" SVS cylinder is probably more than enough.

As Bob pointed out, the addition of DRC (like the Audyssey chip included in many HT receivers and pre-pros) will almost certainly be extremely beneficial to bass performance in your space. The difference between DRC/no DRC will likely dwarf the difference between choosing the best sub versus choosing a merely good sub.

Marty
My rythmik 12" seamlessly integrates with my paradigm signature S2 bookselves. My crossover is at 100hz. This sub will be as transparent as any other sub out there, at any price. The only thing to consider is the headroom. I believe the JL will play louder. My room is 20X20 and the sub fills the room for both HT and 2 channel. It is one of the great bargains in audio. I sent back several subs before settling on rythmik.
The Submersive by Mark Seaton is very good. There are upgrade finishes also available.

Will