high end subwoofer...which one tho?


hi there i'm looking for a used high end sub for home theater use not 2 channel.
i've been looking at the velodyne dd series and jl fathom,
rel, svs possibly (also feel free to make some suggestions)

does anyone know which of these high end subs are the best.
my room is 14x12 with an 8 ceiling.
i also have bass traps everywhere, if that helps.
thanks everyone
nineballg
My rythmik 12" seamlessly integrates with my paradigm signature S2 bookselves. My crossover is at 100hz. This sub will be as transparent as any other sub out there, at any price. The only thing to consider is the headroom. I believe the JL will play louder. My room is 20X20 and the sub fills the room for both HT and 2 channel. It is one of the great bargains in audio. I sent back several subs before settling on rythmik.
The Submersive by Mark Seaton is very good. There are upgrade finishes also available.

Will
i still say the old velodyne ULD series are some of the best subwoofers ever made. pretty cheap on the used market...if you can find one.
I guess when you say hi end sub do you mean hi end for 3-5k? Or less? Or more? :)

1k? = REL T1 It's increadible... you may not need to look futher? Slam reliablity, fun, easy to set up... and some how intergrates into any system? How? You say? Long answer but worth finding out.

3k ish = REL Brittania B1 (I'd get two of them... rel prefers 3 per room... they come set up for an amazing way to to divide all three)

4k = Thiel SS2 (Use two...) Well yes it's on the audiphile level of sub, but the fact that your loins will shake while ever so gently tickeling your ears like some one put a feather in it isn't so bad either.

I actually really enjoy the Theil SS3 Sub. Although it's no longer made it will almost pick up your house and walk away with it. But for a budget just get 2-3 rels (t series or Brittania Series) and you'll freak anyone who comes to your house and watches U571 (Depth charge scene) to running out of the room and crying like a baby in fear.

I just might do that right now... My neighbors dog keeps barking..