Why are my woofers pumping?


The other day, with sunlight direct from the side, I noticed that the woofers in my speakers are pumping in and out, much more than I was aware of, when the stylus is in the groove, even between tracks (no music).  I can see it, even if I don’t hear it. Why does it happen? The woofers behave normally (no pumping) with digital music, and when the stylus it lifted from the groove, so it is not the speakers, amps, preamp or phono stage. 

I’ve read that the typical reason for woofer pumping is that the cartridge / arm resonance is too low.  I tested, with my Hifi News test record, and yes, the lateral test puts the resonance at 7 hz or so – too low (but I’ve seen some doubts about the results from that test record).  It is strange, since the combo I use – Lyra Atlas cartridge and  SME V arm (on a Hanss T-30 player) is supposed to work well. I tried to strip my arm of extras, cleaned the damping trough, etc – but it did not help much.

Anyone has an idea, why it happens, or what to do about it?  


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Nothing so bad it isn’t some good also. I am trying to find a way out, how to repair it for a reasonable cost. This should not happen, for a moderately used (not misused) cartridge. Such things - diamonds falling off, cantilevers breaking, cantilevers or diamonds not precisely tuned - are known to happen, across cart makers. As users we hope for better quality control and follow-up when sub-optimal units have been sold.

I think we now have a very clear main suspect, not suggested by anyone in this otherwise very rich thread. That is: 1) the Atlas showed increased signs of woofer pumping, over some months. Abnormal, when comparing to the Clavis and Titan. 2) For a short period, the diamond was half-loose from the cantilever, with blurred sound. 3) Next, it broke off, from the cantilever (this happened through normal, careful handling)  All this points to a gradually increasing defect in the diamond / cantilever connection. Assuming that a potential crack or breakup can indeed give some strange bass / subsonic pumping effects at first. I am no engineer, but it seems highly possible, and fits the data in my case.


I thank you all for all suggestions in this thread. My problem of woofer pumping is 'solved'. No diamond, no pumping. No woman no cry. Maybe, it was mainly a result of usage. It has 1200 or 1300 hours use, in my estimate. I will try to fix the Atlas. But this thread is now at rest from my side, since the problem is gone.  
Update: I have got a replacement for the broken cartridge, and I am very happy with the performance.

Some testing: The new Atlas makes it clearer that the subsonic effects (and possibly, the subsonic woofer pumping once per revolution) is part of the intended sound, e g in the introduction to Pink Floyd: Echoes. It resides in the recording (or my pressing) and is not in a fault in the system, even if the resonance frequency of my arm and cart is a bit low / challenging, so everything happening down at the end of the frequency scale is picked up.

I don’t hear much rumble or other unwanted effects, just a marvellous big soundscape.

On Rickie Lee Jones The evening, I no longer see any clear subsonic woofer pumping, just a lot of energy, in the woofers, coherent with what I hear.

So it seems, especially with the new Atlas - just look away from eventual woofer pumping (as long as the woofers don’t complain), give it a go, and enjoy the superior sound.

Pink Floyd’s Echoes is known to include "subsonic" effects. Maybe once per revolution - like they later experimented with heartbeats, on Dark side...or maybe on Echoes this is a not intended side effect, who knows. I have an early second pressing of the Meddle UK original, matrix side 2 (with Echoes): "SHVL 795 B-6" "11"? "1" and handwritten "HTM". HTM means Harry T Moss cutter extraordinaire at EMI UK. I have read that subsonic effects may happen due to record warp, but I cannot find any signs of this, with my copy.

Does it sound good? You bet!
Holter, The SME V is too light for the Lyra Atlas, a cartridge of intermediate compliance. I suspect you are seeing the woofer take off up between 15 and 20 Hz. Add one or two grams to the head shell and let us know what happens. 
Get a test record with vertical and lateral resonance test tracks and see what happens.