Best Way to Integrate Subwoofers?


What’s the best way to integrate subwoofers with monitors, or speakers?

I’m not referring to placement, or room treatments. I’m referring to what’s the best way to integrate via a crossover, without a custom dedicated crossover.

Do you run two separate signals to the subs vs the speakers and supress the lower frequencies to the speakers, while supressing the upper frequencies to the subs? It would seem that this method might allow you to move the crossover to higher frequencies, relying more on the subs for the bass and lower mids - if that is beneficial. It would also seem that this method would permit you to taylor the slope of the crossover to minimize overlap of frequencies between the subs and the speakers, which might improve clarity - depending on the capability of the particular crossover used. And, I suppose it implies / requires a separate crossover to be used to run both signals through to route the mids and highs only to the speakers and the bass and lows only to the subs.

Or do you run the same signal to the subs and speakers and just emphasize the subs up to the bottom of the frequency range of the speakers, crossing over from the subs to the speakers at that point (crossover notch). It would seem that this method would require you to fix the crossover at the bottom of the frequency range of the speakers, wherever that may be, and would not require a separate crossover to be inserted into the signal path. And it would seem to imply that the slope of the crossover would be limited to the slope inherent in the subs and speakers, which would limit the flexibility of the crossover.

Or, does it make any difference?
bassdude
"Rel ,the best and easiest way to go.
2 t7i"

Looks mouth watering...but only 8"...ain't that a bit small?

You can get 2 15" or 12" sealed servero Rythmiks for around that same price....

If that 8" REL can really put-out that would be tempting...
So... what are some of the other grounding blocks you all may use, besides the $5,000 Nordost unit???
@shakira

“Rel ,the best and easiest way to go.
2 t7i”

Yes... I hope the t9i is as well. Just bought a pair and haven’t set them up and integrated them yet. I have read some comments that they think the t7i may have a little better detail resolution and clarity, because the smaller drivers are faster and more responsive. I guess for some of us it’s not about how loud the bass is, but how resolved, tight and textured it is - the resolution and accuracy.

And I think I read the same thing about the Vandersteen subs - smaller drivers with faster, more accurate, more resolved sound.
Actually guys the best and easiest way to go is four subs in a distributed bass array. I know. I’ve tried. You’re kidding yourselves if you think its easy or even possible to get really good bass from any one sub. Cannot be done. No matter where you put it, no matter how you EQ it, best you can do is get pretty good at one spot. So after a lot of time wasted moving, listening, moving, listening, tweaking EQ, moving, listening, measuring you eventually call it good and tell yourself its good. But its not good. Because in order to get it good, even in just that one spot, you created nodes where the bass is way too loud elsewhere in the room. Its inevitable. Its physics. No speaker, no EQ, nothing ever gonna alter the physics of the room and the wave. So that loud node hangs around messing up the bass. Always gonna happen. No way around it.

Only when you accept reality, accept the physics, then you plop FOUR subs down, do a rough level set, and immediately enjoy bass better than you ever heard before. That’s what I heard last night. Haven’t tweaked a thing yet, already better than anything I ever heard anywhere ever.

Oh and btw, two of those REL subs you all are raving about that cannot possibly ever produce really good SOTA bass cost about as much as the FOUR in a Swarm system that will. http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/audiokinesis-swarm-subwoofer-system/