Old tubes vs New tubes


My Melody I880 integrated has been running the same set of KT88's for several years now. Lately they started going soft, getting noisy, sometimes kind of a white noise, sometimes kind of a pffft sound, different levels, at idle never during play. Okay well they are shot.
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The tubes are really hot from music so I go out and get a cotton towel to change em out. There's an old set I keep around just in case. Lotta hours on these as well but curious to see how they compare I plug em in. Right away, faster than I can change a side anyway, there's this electric zapping sound and I look and see this really cool Tesla coil blue-white mad scientist electrical storm going on inside one of the tubes. Cool as it is I figure this is probably one of those times when less is more. Off goes the amp and off goes me looking for another set.

Ahh, here we go. Brand new (probably) Svetlana KT-88s. Plug em in. Power on. No zapping. No smoke. Okay. Back to Brother's in Arms, Side 3 of the MoFi 45 set.

Right away it seems like nothing has changed, no wait, it is a little more open and extended, little more detailed. The longer I listen though, its like someone's in there turning this great big knob slowly, ever so slowly, up and up and up. And this Gnome, he's got this control panel chock full of knobs- Bass, Midrange, Treble, Imaging, Palpable Presence, Detail, Dynamics, Punch, Slam, on and on, and he starts out scrambling like mad between them but then after a while he gives up and starts straining away slowly turning this one monster knob labeled EVERYTHING!

I love this guy! Within a few minutes its obvious the bass is more extended and a whole lot tighter. The highs are crystal clear, airy and free of mist. The whole presentation is so freakishly dynamic I can hardly believe it. There's a wood block, at least I think its a wood block, but every time he hits it it makes this CRACK! that is so powerfully there you feel it in your chest. I feel it in my skull! Which itself is impressive considering how thick my skull is! There's a bass line that's so articulately and precisely delineated its like you can tell the guy had his manicure at Gene Juarez and not the cheap Korean place. Knopfler is palpably present like never before, he just had a sip of Evian and not the sparking one either and yeah I know BIA is maybe the best MoFi of all time SQ wise but come on! 

Few minutes later I walk out and try and tell the wife about the blue-arcTesla tube. But she cuts me off. "What was that last? It sounded like a concert. It was BETTER than a concert! What did you do?"

People strain to hear differences between tubes. My wife heard this through the listening rooms closed solid core weather-stripped door. Before it sounded like a tube amp. Now it sounds..... amazing.




 




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It's possible my 50s Chicago transformers are so good, I can hear the subtleties of the differences between all those old tubes! 
Chicago Standard Transformer Company.
#32004. I don't honestly know how they compare to modern Lundahl, Tango or Hashimoto iron, but they give bags of detail.


The two tube amps I have the most experience with are the Aronov LS960I and Melody 880. Both are about 50-60 Wpc. Have run a lot of KT88s in both, and 6550 as well in the Aronov which can run both. Have opened up and modded both amps, most extensively the Aronov with all upgraded caps and diodes. As I've said before its easy to hear the different tubes, but the differences between them - even between 6550 and KT88 - are pretty minor.

The differences between the overall sound of the two is a different story. They both have about the same extension in terms of low to high response. But the Aronov has more authority and control down low, more midrange natural unforced presence, a little more liquid top end, and the whole presentation just has greater depth and width with a greater sense of the natural acoustic venue, if that was captured on the recording. It all adds up to a much more significant difference between the two than anything I've ever heard from any tube or cap or diode change.

Just to look at them, to judge by component quality, quality of point to point wiring, simplicity of design, etc if I had to guess based on that without listening I would have to give the edge to the Melody. Listening however its the other way around. The one unaccounted for variable being the transformers.

It sure seems to me that by the process of elimination that is all we have left. Transformers are a big underrated and unsung factor in tube amp performance.

I'm impressed you know what are in yours. I have no idea what are in either of mine. One thing I do know, sure would like to be able to build an amp around those Aronov transformers.