@larry5729 I'm not going to bother going to the REL site to check but I would be highly surprised (to put it mildly) if the T9/i puts out 300 "class A" watts.
Can anyone hear the difference when you add REL subwoofers when playing two channel
I wonder if anyone else has had problems hearing a difference when adding REL subwoofers to their two channel systems? I have gone back to a reputable dealer in town to listen to a pair of Vienna Acoustic Mozart's paired with a REL S3 and I couldn't detect a difference when they added and subtracted the REL. I wonder if this was because the Vienna Acoustic Mozart's are already can extend down to 30 Hz. I have also read reviews on the Mozart's and they said one of their criticisms was they felt the Mozart's to be too boomy in the bass.
The dealer keeps telling me I am expecting to hear a more punchy pounding bass sound and that is not what I should be listening to. He keeps saying I should be listening for greater depth and space to create a larger sound stage. He went on to say if I had a subwoofer that delivered too much bass, they would eventually drive me out of the room and spoil my enjoyment of listening to music. I thought I had sensitive ears to sound, but in this case I wonder if I am tone deaf. My fear is getting a pair of T/9i's in my home and my wife telling me I wasted our money because she could not hear a difference.
There must be a reason why so many dealers have told me their first pick would be a REL because they are so musical.
I also question why REL manufactures their subs with such low wattage? For example, their S3 delivers only 400 watts and their T/9i's deliver just 300 watts. When comparing them to subwoofers like JL, which deliver 750 watts to $1500 watts, maybe REL subwoofers are just too wimpy.
The dealer keeps telling me I am expecting to hear a more punchy pounding bass sound and that is not what I should be listening to. He keeps saying I should be listening for greater depth and space to create a larger sound stage. He went on to say if I had a subwoofer that delivered too much bass, they would eventually drive me out of the room and spoil my enjoyment of listening to music. I thought I had sensitive ears to sound, but in this case I wonder if I am tone deaf. My fear is getting a pair of T/9i's in my home and my wife telling me I wasted our money because she could not hear a difference.
There must be a reason why so many dealers have told me their first pick would be a REL because they are so musical.
I also question why REL manufactures their subs with such low wattage? For example, their S3 delivers only 400 watts and their T/9i's deliver just 300 watts. When comparing them to subwoofers like JL, which deliver 750 watts to $1500 watts, maybe REL subwoofers are just too wimpy.
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See my post which is directly related: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/kal-on-sub-integration-and-antimode |
Audioman58: Doesn't the SVS turn the towers in to boom boxes and throbbing bass? Did you have the same problem I am having hearing difference when you add and subtract a REL subwoofers when 2 channel listening? The dealer told me I am listening for the wrong thing, an added bass sound. When I listened to the S3, I got on my knees and put my ear next to the speaker and it was not pulsing out the beat. All it was doing was putting a steady humming sound. Hard to describe. |
I believe it will only Throb with bass if the REL's low pass filter is "listening" for such frequencies. If the REL is set at 30Hz, but the Throb frequency is happenging at 40Hz, then the REL won't play it. That hum may well be the reverb/transient information and could be normal. Play music that for sure thumps at 28Hz then check again. Probably wouldn't want to get your ear right up to it. |
I have 2 "older" UK made RELs, a 10" Q108MKII at 100 watts, and a Q150e at 150 watts, and they integrate into my listening room extremely well...you do have to pay attention to level, crossover points, phase, and location, but even without a "room correction" gizmo they sound fabulous, and I don't miss a 20hz anything. I did drag my 92lb Mackie HRS (designed for recording rigs and not necessarily pro audio live work, although I have used it for a pro gig...once...) sub in from my recording room when I first bought the thing, and although it's a 19hz capable 500 a/b watts monster, it didn't seem to add anything that I wasn't getting from my RELs. Sounded fine, but I guess I don't listen to pipe organs much. |
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