http://www.audiokinesis.com/the-swarm-subwoofer-system-1.html
Though I use Vandy subs, I have heard very positive things about this system.
Bob
Rythmik Vs REL Subwoofers - What to Buy?
Given the L shaped layout, I would consider using the AudioKinesis Swarm. http://www.audiokinesis.com/the-swarm-subwoofer-system-1.html Though I use Vandy subs, I have heard very positive things about this system. Bob |
The F12 sounds like a very good sub and a great value. I feel bad even bringing this up and muddying the waters, but you might also consider a used Vandersteen 2wq sub. It goes down to 20Hz (-3dB) and it’s an extremely musical sub, but I think one of its major strengths is it has a very unique design that makes it easier to blend the sub with your system. Many people have been very happy with the results they get from adding one of these, especially for music. Anyway, FWIW. Best of luck. |
Richard Vandersteen came up with a great idea for his subs: feed-forward. He determined the difference between the signal the sub was fed, and the sub’s output. He then created an electronic circuit that provided an inverse signal to the woofer, to eliminate that difference. So the feed-forward signal is static. The Rythmik Direct Servo-Feedback circuit is an active, dynamic system; it reacts to, amongst other things, the changes in voice coil temperature (the temperature of the coil in ALL woofers changes in reaction to signal strength and driver-cone motion), compensating for that change in temperature so as to keep the output of the woofer consistent. You can read about that and lots of other technical information on the Rythmik subs on the companys’ excellent website. |
Larry, Just go buy the rythmik already! Why start a second thread covering pretty much the same topic? You mention that the problem is that there are many recordings that contain bass frequencies of 24hz and possibly lower... really? Like what? You can barely hear 24hz. I don’t believe you can hear below 20hz but you can feel it. So anyhow, , I’m confused as to why a manufacturers freq. response rating is of utmost importance? You ought to take into consideration your room treatments, or lack thereof, as well. You give a detailed description of your room shape and size... do you have any room treatments? Tight, articulated bass with finesse and no overhang are probably more important (especially in music) than eeking out that last 5hz of audible bass. It is not good in business to say my products are good because yours are crap. Your product should be good enough to just make statements based on your product. Pretty much everyone knows this... You seem to really be getting bogged down with specs here and I highly doubt that your musical enjoyment will be compromised because it only plays to 30hz vs 20hz. I listen to a-lot of bass heavy music that would probably offend most listeners here and I’ve had a few different “entry level” subwoofers from SVS, REL, Velodyne, Emotiva, KEF, Paradigm, Sunfire, etc. I was not able to integrate any of them properly except for the REL. The T9i integrates so well that either the bass sounds like its coming from your towers or it is energizing and griping the room as a whole. It is interesting that you mention that you can’t even her a REL subwoofer, yet you also state that REL’s only play to 35hz and that because of this, bass freq. of less than where the crossover is set will overlap the bass from the mains, creating too much bass and driving you out of the room. I’ve found that whenever I was adjusting the volume of a subwoofer, its best to barely be able to hear it otherwise after 30 minutes you’ve had enough. In closing, there are probably many great subwoofers out there. I am a fan of SVS and also REL. Rythmik looks very good as well but if its true that the owner (?) or higher up employee had to bad mouth REL in order to sell their subs, I won’t support that type of business. Also, Larry, why spout off he said she said statements when it would appear that you personally have little to no experience with subwoofers? Maybe you could share with us the type of music you listen to that is just not going to be musically satisfying playing to 30 hz vs. 14hz... Nice Paradigms by the way! |