What is a lowball offer? How low is low?


Recently I was looking at 2 -3 preamps. One was particularly interesting which was a Conrad Johnson 16LS2. The asking price was $3500. I have always wanted the 16LS2. But it was out of my price range. I couldn't make a serious offer. So I didn't and moved on. A few days later I see that it has sold for $2500! What? That was in my budget. But I would have considered that more an insult than a offer. And because I didn't want to insult the seller, I lost a good preamp to someone who was willing to take the chance. So what is the lesson learned here? Apparently I should insult more sellers . The seller wasn't insulted after all. he sold it for $2500. Or is the lesson that I take this stuff too seriously?Should sellers be insulted when offered 50% of their price?  I had thought that 10-15% below the asking price was a realistic offer. Now I'm not sure. So what do you consider a low ball offer? And please, I understand that a product is worth what someone is willing to pay. So no economic lessons please
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I think there is a way to make a low offer without it being insulting. Something along the lines of:

"Hi I've always wanted preamp X your unit looks perfect. Sadly I have limited funds if you would ever consider accepting $xxxxx please let me know and apologies if I've wasted your time"
I love haggling both as a buyer and a seller. Sadly, some people see haggling as an insult, which I've always found odd insofar as if someone matches my asking price, I tend to get suspicious.

But offering below the asking price  - and below what you're willing to max out at - is fine. Just be prepared to go higher.

You can always walk away.
Another situation is where a replacement model is more expensive... example... item A is $100 new and the “updated version” has jumped to $125....item A may now sell for 60-70% used because the replacement is more expensive. 


One one final thought that sometimes I think is ignored... it’s not what you pay, but what you can resell it for in a couple years when it’s time... examples... you know that KEF, Audio Research, parasound and others hold their value pretty well over time... so if you can resell for 50% then who cares if you have to pay 60%... your real cost was only 10%!!!
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