Tariffs and sky high audio prices.


With the Chinese tariffs taking hold on 100% of the imports and maybe even on Mexico forthcoming, the audio industry is going to see another big jump in their sky high prices. Anyone making purchases ASAP to get lower prices from existing inventory before post tariff products enter the marketplace?
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@oregonpapa

Thanks for the link. I have seen that article/treatise many years ago and its important for you to know that the version you linked has been edited...and its one man’s opinion: Alan Greenspan’s, and it was from the perspective he had then almost 20 years ago.

This was prior to the dot.com bubble-burst and more importantly, prior to the great recession that his version of monetary policy contributed to to a large degree. If the answers were easy, then proper monetary policy would be easy and everyone would adopt the same policies worldwide...unless they were trying to solve different problems ie:tipping the scales their way.

I offer this opinion with the deepest respect I can extend to you that everyone’s opinion deserves the same objective examination. At its very root, once people have savings/resources, they want to protect them, especially if they are aging. I get that. Many want no taxes while expecting government programs to take care of their needs in their old age (health, safety, transportation, social security, etc). They don’t want to deploy resources to help others in need, be they domestic or foreign, and yet many fail to recognize that failing to help others comes with immense costs domestically (law enforcement, prisons, crime, insurance, healthcare, the lack of an educated populace) and its immeasurable if we fail in foreign generosity (war, famine, trade, health crises, religious extremism) not to even mention the morality of failing to do the right thing for your neighbors.

I hear many speak of Social Security as their right...the I paid in mentality. Maybe everyone should just get a check for the total amount they paid in compounded at the average rate of inflation over that period? Its then that people will sober up and realize they don’t pay anywhere near as much in as they get out in terms of real dollars. the same goes for other services: healthcare, education, etc, etc. Many on this site pay enormous amounts of income taxes, 6 or 7 figures per year. They are rarely griping about storing their wealth and "protecting their savings" from the "welfare statists" as the article mentions. The paranoid who read "investment" services like these need to understand clearly they are playing on fear because they only offer one service for sale: selling gold to extremely scared people. A balanced portfolio (not in a mattress) of equities, bonds and real estate will always outperform gold over time.

A proper society can’t tax cut its way out of its challenges any more than it can tax its way out. The circuitous route in this post is to say that there are many levers in an integrated economy, just like in audio. Change a cable, a component, etc and everything else is affected. Greenspan is brilliant but Bernacke saved the US economy from ruin. Neither are absolutely right and neither absolutely wrong. Now what?

Thanks for the enjoyment of reading every ones posts. You people make me laugh and I enjoy coming to this site.

Gold has not backed our currency in some time, that is nothing new. It is backed by the faith that we can repay the debt same as you having a mortgage on your home.

A little over 70% of each dollar goes to pay the monthly bills of our government. Not much left over for our government buying a nice audio system!

Someone mentioned going to China. Well if you are in the middle class your annual salary would about $8,000.

@ghasley - if I remember correctly, you run out of your SS contribution in like 3 years of your retirement. But people are living 20 years after retiring. There is also the fact that there are less people contributing to SS versus people who are retired so there is a big drain there.

I just had a client move to New Jersey from Canada. She told me that health care is free! 53 to 54% tax rate and if you need a hip replacement, you have to get in line as that is not a procedure that you can obtain quickly like here in the US. I pay high enough taxes but 53% ouch!

Anyone in NJ/NYC area. We have a few planned get togethers. Let me know,


Canada's health system is actually quite admirable, and this is coming from a lifelong US citizen/resident. The health system there works quite well if you think of it as basically a huge HMO. Your description of "you have to get in line" is only applicable if you want the free version of the hip replacement. If you are willing and able to pay for it without expecting reimbursement, you can. Any Canadian who can afford it can get a new hip tomorrow in Canada, the USA, Switzerland...basically anywhere you want to go and pay for it out of your own pocket. It is a choice for most to wait for the free hip replacement. 
I love this thread. I hope we can inject enough audio in it to keep it solvent. ;-)

ghasley ...

Thank you for your well thought out post. Some real food for thought there. 

You've made a good point about Social Security not being a "right," and instead, an "entitlement." One thing that was missed was any comment about those who pay in over decades and pass on prior to retirement age and get nothing, nor do their heirs.

While I agree that many receive more than they paid in due to longevity, those who pass on early make up some of the difference. As of this date, there is no money in the Social Security trust fund. It has been "borrowed" to pay for other government expenses. Money taken (by force) from today's workers, are not put into the trust fund but are used to pay current recipients. Bernie Madoff comes to mind here.

Do you consider Social Security a retirement benefit, or is it a tax? Is it a solvent government program as promised long ago by the FDR administration, or is it a Ponzi scheme of enormous proportions? Have you ever checked out the private system being used in Chile? Here are some links:

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/chiles-social-security-lesson-us

https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2018/02/02/the-overwhelming-case-for-chiles-private-social-security-system/

Take care ...

Frank




Chinese will get us a free head replacement in no time. With Chinese heads. Then we will see things as they should be seen. And they know that no one is going to repay those debts, not a problem, they use money as a weapon and as a tool to absorb everything there is to absorb. So no, they are not enemies, they are a competing civilization. Imperial China is forever.