What is a lowball offer? How low is low?


Recently I was looking at 2 -3 preamps. One was particularly interesting which was a Conrad Johnson 16LS2. The asking price was $3500. I have always wanted the 16LS2. But it was out of my price range. I couldn't make a serious offer. So I didn't and moved on. A few days later I see that it has sold for $2500! What? That was in my budget. But I would have considered that more an insult than a offer. And because I didn't want to insult the seller, I lost a good preamp to someone who was willing to take the chance. So what is the lesson learned here? Apparently I should insult more sellers . The seller wasn't insulted after all. he sold it for $2500. Or is the lesson that I take this stuff too seriously?Should sellers be insulted when offered 50% of their price?  I had thought that 10-15% below the asking price was a realistic offer. Now I'm not sure. So what do you consider a low ball offer? And please, I understand that a product is worth what someone is willing to pay. So no economic lessons please
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Example. There is one particular set of used but not old cables on usaudiomart for $1300, retail about $4000. He has been trying to sell them since January. They are great cables - WyWires Diamond RCAs .75 M pair. What should I offer if I wanted them ? The price already seems more than reasonable, but he can't sell them for that. If I was willing to get into this I would offer $950 plus shipping. But I am a relatively poor man, this is all big money for me. If I was not I would buy them for the asking $1300. Let's pay our share.
My father sold cars for 35 years (Pontiacs from mid-60s to mid-70s was his heyday). I referenced the Blue Book once upon a time while talking to him about cars (which, oddly enough, we seldom talked in any detail about). He said "you can take a Zippo to that Blue Book of yours. A car (or boat, or guitar, or pair of speakers, or SS amplifier....) is only worth what someone will give you for it." Which would certainly seem to be the case.
A corollary to that is "a car (or boat, or guitar, or pair of speakers, or SS amplifier....) is only worth to me what I will pay for it."
And you don’t always know what that is until you ask or offer.
If the seller gets insulted.............in my world, likely not the type of person I’d typically enjoy doing business with any way, so........"no offense intended. Thanks for your time, good luck with your sale."
And onward.

Begin the process by expressing to the seller how much you appreciate the opportunity to buy said product. That while you don't want to offend the seller, you do want everyone to feel good in the end. The make a reasonable offer.
Low is low when a Chinese guy from Las Vegas offers you 800 bucks on a item that your selling for 2500 !

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Low is low when a Chinese guy from Las Vegas offers you 800 bucks on a item that your selling for 2500 !"

Are you a Jew who is asking too much???????