Rogue Audio vs Vincent Audio


Hello,

Just wanted to get opinions/suggestions on Rogue Audio vs Vincent Audio.

In particular, the Rogue Audio Sphinx V2 Vincent SV-237MK.

Heard a Rogue Sphinx demo today and it certainly sounded good hooked up to some B&W Speakers, sorry forgot to check which model but infidelity, one of their higher end speakers.

Show rooms always have good acoustics, I unfortunately have vaulted ceilings.

Anyways, wanted to see what you all have to say.

I am at the moment evaluating a Vincent Audio SV-500 which I do like very much but now the Rogue has me thinking. 

I can still return the Vincent within it's 30 days limit but have also read such good reviews of the Vincent SV-237MK, so I am wondering about that also.

Thanks
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Why not ask your local dealer to pop the made in USA Rogue Sphinx home for a bit. This should help you make an easier decision. while supporting your, local dealer, that opened your awareness and ears in the first place.
Ask your local dealer if you can take the Rogue that you demoed for home for a tryout. Dealers will often let you do this at closing time and bring it back when they open up the next day!

+1 on the Rogue. You can't beat their customer service. They are always available over the phone.

+3 on asking your local dealer for an in home demo. My dealer did that for me when I was trying to decide between the Rogue Pharaoh and Cronus Magnum III. Both excellent amps, but I just couldn't get the tube sound of the CMIII out of my head.

Thanks for the suggestion of requesting to borrow the Rogue for a in home demo, it’s funny that you all mentioned that because that is exactly what I am doing right now. I picked up the unit yesterday and have till about Saturday.
I will tell you of my honest experience so far and how I feel.
Sorry if this post gets a little long.

As soon as I got it home, I hooked it right up of course.
First, let me describe the rest of my equipment.
- Martin Logan Motion 40 Speakers- Questyle CMA400i DAC- Denon DP-300f TT w/Ortofon 2M Blue Cartridge- Denon Universal Blu ray Player - Using for CD/SACD Playback- HTPC for Hi Res Music Playback

OK, so the unit definitely sounds good and I played one of tracks that the showroom was playing when I heard it there, Eagles Hotel California (2013 Remastered), which at the showroom was very impressive. They played through Tidal using an Aurender Unit.
I don’t have that but do have my HTPC connected to my DAC and so played through Tidal as well as Qobuz. Both sounded good but as I stated before, room acoustics play a big role. Their show room had a low flat ceiling and I have vaulted ceilings, so the sound was different but still good.
Last night and this morning, I have listened to different types of music through CD, SACD, Vinyl, Hi Res Music (DSD, Flac, Qobuz and Tidal).
The Rogue has more bass then the Vincent since it puts out 200 wpc vs 80 watts on the Vincent. My Speakers are 4 ohms.
But so far, here is my dilemma. The Rogue sounds very close to the Vincent. I wouldn’t say that one is better or far superior to the other as far as sound is concerned. I wish it was a dramatic difference as that would have made this easier but it is not.
Other factors are important to me also. I like the looks of the Vincent and the foot print is smaller making it easier to accommodate in my media cabinet. I have the Silver Faced Rogue right now and it is elegant looking, reminds me of the latest Yamaha AS Series Integrateds.
But overall, the sound between the 2 units is very close and the Rogue will be basically about $600 more with tax and all. The Vincent was straight $1000.
There is also one more dilemma. One that you may laugh at and one with which I may lost some credibility, You might think, "This guy does not know what he is talking about"
Before the Vincent, I was using my Denon AVR-5700. An AVR that came out in 1999 but was top of the line in it’s time. In my opinion a high quality piece of equipment.
I did extensive back and forth between the Vincent and Denon and they sound very similar.
Well, sorry for the long post. I am going to continue to evaluate the Rogue.
But this is very difficult for me, to decide between the Rogue and Vincent.

They are both Hybrid Amps, Vincent being Class A/B and Rogue being Class D with Tube based Pre-ams (as far as my understaning is).
Ha, why can’t things be simple :)



Martin Logan Motion 40’s impart a LOT of their own sound signature into the mix.  They had a very forward “presence” region with a big midrange suckout.  I owned some previously.

My point is, they aren’t the easiest speakers to really suss out amplifier differences on, and it’s no surprise to me that they all sounded similar.