Was the Snell Secret a Wide Baffle?


I often regret not buying old Snell A/III when I had the money and the space.

One of my all time favorite speakers. By now I'd have certainly had to throw it away. I'd not have the space, and those woofers with extra mass would long ago have pulled out of their frames.

One thing you don't realize unless you go looking for the pics, or owned one, was that the tweeter and midrange of these  speakers were, in my mind, very wide baffle designs. Yes, curved, but very wide.

Another Speaker I like, which I believe is based on a Snell design, is the Audio note AN/J, also has a relatively wide baffle, as do the Devore Orangutan. Of course, among my all time favorite speakers is the Sonus Faber Stradivari, a speaker I know can sound excellent even in acoustically challenged rooms.

What do you all think, have you heard the wide baffle magic?
erik_squires
Erik,

I have been lately "seduced" by what seems to be a commonality among some wide-baffle speakers. I’m thinking mostly of Harbeth and Devore O series (may be missing some).


Both those speaker lines seem to produce a richer/fuller-than-usual sonic presentation, where instruments have more size and sense of body. And that addresses one of the main deficits I find in most sound systems (at least those speakers many of us can afford or end up with):Reproduced sound generally is reductive, thinner. Whenever I hear even a live solo violin I’m amazed at how "big" and rich even a single high note sounds in real life, where on most sound systems it would sound like a toy version, thin, wiry, distant, squeezed.

The sense of a full-sized acoustic guitar with an actual body projecting sound seems more fully realized, to my ears, on speakers like the Devore and Harbeth (though the Harbeth doesn’t go quite as far as the Devore).

Obviously there are other things that narrower baffle speaker designs do great (and I’ve just chosen one over the wide-baffle design).


And it doesn’t seem to me that in principle a narrower baffle-to-driver ratio entails thin sound. In fact, I had the Harbeth SuperHL5plus speakers for a while directly comparing them to my Thiel 3.7. The 3.7s put out at least as big and weighty sonic images as the Harbeth, despite being of the "reduce baffle size" school of design. I’m presuming among other things, the sheer cabinet size and larger drivers and lower frequency range figured in to that for the Thiels.

BUT...for their size...the Harbeths did tend to put out a richer, weightier image than other similar size/spec’d speakers.

Another factor to consider is that both the Harbeth and Devore O series ALSO come from the "let the cabinet vibrate" school of thought, which also could be adding richness.





Boston A200's.

Fantastic Imaging....

I have found sources of music ie...the CD player...The Btooth device....the table to have an influence on imaging.

And Devore’s inspiration for the "O" series came directly from the Audio Note N...


I would conjecture that the same feature is a good part of the reason for the recent success of the Wharfedale Lintons...

twoleftears,
From what I've seen John D say on the subject, it sounded like the Snell speakers were the bigger inspiration for his going the wide baffle route.
My JBL 4319 speakers are of the old school, wide baffle design and they image better than my old, narrow baffle monitors that were purported to be imaging champs.

With the JBLs, the images can be as wide and deep as the recording dictates with very stable imaging, with a rich and full toned presentation.

I have nothing to complain about and think that all the fuss about narrow baffles was just a way to see if things could be improved and it caught on and became de rigueur, only to come full circle, and, hopefully, back to the basics that work.

All the best,
Nonoise