Things that make you go, "Hmmmmm...."


the Muse was about $10k new years ago, I paid $650 for it on Audiogon


What CD player can I buy that will hold its value and not be near worthless in anything more than a few years?

New or used.


128x128millercarbon
@millercarbon Thank you for asking a good reasonable question. It never ceases to amaze me how people have to preach their biases instead of actually addressing the question asked.

I have several thousand CDs including HDCDs and SACDs. I like the experience of playing them as discs. I realize that makes me a troglodyte but so be it.

I currently own a PS Audio PerfectWave Mk II transport and DAC that I got for about 40% of retail after the DirectStream came out. It's worth 80% of what I paid for it. I also have a Krell CD 250/2 player that's worth 90+% of what I paid for it. My third player is a Marantz SA 8005 that I got used. I see them selling for around 90% of what I paid for mine several years ago.

Here are some other recommendations:

Vintage Krell or vintage Mark Levinson: If you buy a good condition model with original packaging for a fair price it will hold its value. Examples are ML 360s DAC with a 37 transport, and Krell KPS 20i. These units decode HDCDs (I have a couple hundred) which is not available in new players. You can still get transports for both players but it would be wise to acquire an extra when you get the player.

Emotiva ERC-3: I bought one new and sold it for slightly more than I paid for it. This was a classic piece of gear that decodes HDCDs (Emotiva's new players don't do that). A pristine player with original packaging should hold near 100% of its value indefinitely.

Any vintage player that received a Class A rating in Stereophile that you can buy on the used market - especially if the player broke new ground in some way and if it is from a major manufacturer still in business. I own several pieces of high end vintage gear from the mid 90's through the mid 2000's and the depreciation curve seems to have flattened out for all of my pieces. Besides holding its value this kind of gear has a special pride of ownership because it was so well made and because it was absolutely state of the art when it was new. I love this stuff and playing a file from my tablet just doesn't give me same satisfaction.
I think several of the “troglodytes” decided to get defensive about the CD format in general. The OP question was if there was a transport that would hold its value, or potentially a vintage transport that would be highly regarded and appreciate from original MSRP. The answer to that is, as best I can tell, and overwhelming no. It’s not about your personal opinions on CDs. These are facts about the way capitalism works. Lots of used transports and tech gets old fast leaving a glut of used high end players due to upgrading and moving away from a declining format. 
@millercabon what exactly are you on about? The Rega Saturn sells new for $3000 and can buy pristine used ones for like $1000. It’s not even that old.


Well that’s the thing about writing. No matter how crystal clear, always someone seeing mud. Let me see if I can help.

What I am "on about" is: "What CD player can I buy that will hold its value and not be near worthless in anything more than a few years?" For example the $10k going to $650.

That’s what I am on about. Finding a CD player that won’t do that.

The Saturn is the only candidate, so far.

Now in your case I would have to ask, what are you on about? Again, what I am on about is crystal clear. You could even go back and read it. Its still there: "the classic older versions are better than the newer ones."

Now, you may disagree. Like the guy who said they are crap. Fine. Disagree all you want. But follow the logic. If you can. It gets right down to the heart of the matter. Which is, that there might be some exceptions to the rule. Could be sound quality. Could be looks. Could be a combination of things so far not even mentioned.

That’s what I am "on about"- seeing if there are exceptions. Finding the exceptional.

Could you maybe help instead of hinder?


If it's just a transport, I've suggested this for the price on other threads.
https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/usa/en/products/hi-fi/cx-series-2/cxc

Price/looks, it's a winner. Plug in a nice DAC, temporary escape from record madness. I have an older 550C with a Denafrips. Really nice on the cheap!

I gave up on resale values for audio gear. If I have something I no longer want, sell at a price to make the new owner happy, and put something back on my pocket. I move on-too many records to look for in the bins.
millercarbon,

     If you're looking fort an older CD player that sounds good, originally sold for $1K but sells used for about $100 and is as cool as a lava lamp, you may want to consider a Sony DVP-S7700.  Check out how the front display moves down prior to the disc tray opening.  Pretty high cool factor, especially with a lava lamp doin its thing nearby: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49ZceNYfQXs

     You probably won't even need to play anything to impress guests, just open and close the drawer a few times with the remote.  Hours of fun!  I still have mine although it's not used in my system anymore due to only playing DVDs and not playing Blu-rays.

      The Shanling CD-T2000 CD/SACD player is also a well reviewed and amazing looking player:

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/cd-players-and-recorders/shanling-cd-...


Tim