Hi Tim,
I agree with what you said. Putting a cap on a tweeter for example does not mean a first order 6db/octave. The best I can hope for is 6db/octave in a limited frequency range. I think speakers from Thiel and Vandersteens that "claimed" to be first order, but it's an approximate, but I don't want to say too much here. And as you said, there are more than time-phase coherence. There are many ways to design a good pair of speakers. And I won't argue personal preferences. I will present an "objective" point of view: here is what first order/time phase coherence. Whether which one is better is not up to me.
I took me a lot of works and a lot and lot more thinking to put together what I think is a comprehensive and meaningful discussion of first order / time phase coherence approach that I don't think I saw anywhere on the web. As I said, there are just too many misinformation out there. Some people ought to pay me lols. It costs me a good life!
Also I am not really looking to argue with anyone here. I will present my case, and it's up to you. I suspect more will end up disagreeing with me than agreeing :-)
I agree with what you said. Putting a cap on a tweeter for example does not mean a first order 6db/octave. The best I can hope for is 6db/octave in a limited frequency range. I think speakers from Thiel and Vandersteens that "claimed" to be first order, but it's an approximate, but I don't want to say too much here. And as you said, there are more than time-phase coherence. There are many ways to design a good pair of speakers. And I won't argue personal preferences. I will present an "objective" point of view: here is what first order/time phase coherence. Whether which one is better is not up to me.
I took me a lot of works and a lot and lot more thinking to put together what I think is a comprehensive and meaningful discussion of first order / time phase coherence approach that I don't think I saw anywhere on the web. As I said, there are just too many misinformation out there. Some people ought to pay me lols. It costs me a good life!
Also I am not really looking to argue with anyone here. I will present my case, and it's up to you. I suspect more will end up disagreeing with me than agreeing :-)