VPI's new "Vanquish" Ultra High-End turntable is a STUNNER!


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Bigkids says the table alone is only $15K, not $100K. The base price could represent a sort of bargain in the high end market. I agree with his basic premise that one should not go off with out knowing the whole story. However, the discussion of tonearms without headshell offset angle is accurate, regardless of what VPI may have done with their particular version. And I tried to convey that I think there is merit in an underhung tonearm with no head shell offset angle, based on my extensive listening to one example of that type and on rave reviews of another similar design.
The DD motor has noise of 0.004, I believe measured a the headshell. VPI has made TTs with belts but nothing as quite as this and the speed is super stable.



I think you are referring to W&F; 0.004% is what HW has claimed in numerous videos, but their official specs have it at 0.008%. Both those numbers are dubious and need some explanation from VPI (i.e. what method they are using to measure it). HW says you can’t use a test record you have to use the software that is supplied by Elmo Motion Control who make the controller. I have the software, and the table measures much worse than 0.008%, more like 0.04~0.07%, which isn’t bad, but not much better than a well tuned BD table. Using a test record measures nearly the same. If you look at the output of the magnetic encoder ring they use for feedback, it looks even worse. The spec from the mfr of the ring encoder (RLS in Slovenia) is ~0.02% (system error=magnetic encoding error + sub-division error + eccentricity at 50µm), so even if the motor/controller were perfect, it’s difficult to see how W&F could drop below that.

As far as speed accuracy, the encoder they use produces 2560 pulses per rev;  the controller locks the speed to a count taken on 1 second intervals.  For 33.333 RPM, that equates to 1422.222 counts;  the controller can only work with integer counts, so they round it up to 1423 which yields a platter speed of 33.351.  Not bad, but not as good as I get with on a DIY belt drive using the RR tach and a Condor PSU (33.333 ±0.005 RPM).


I believe the reason people question the design choices and even the published specs for VPI products, is because in the past, they have made misleading or inaccurate statements, some of them so bad, they are outright laughable.



FYI, very little of the mfring is done by VPI. Most if not all of the machining is done by MDI mfring in Lakewood NJ; VPI assembles the components.

Hi phoenixengr.
i assume that they are using encoder interpolation to get the count up to 2560 P/R?
 Cheers 
And these are the guys who tried to tell people that anti skating was unnecessary starting the whole myth that anti skating made things sound worse. Thanx Phoenix for your input on this. Between no anti skating and floppy uni pivot arms VPI permanently damaged it's reputation with me at least. There are many great turntable manufactures out there that have pristine reputations and offer well thought out high performance tables that do not feel the need to waste money dressing up their tables like a tarte.