Power amps into surge protector/Conditioner or DIRECT to wall? Final verdict?

I have my Gryphon Colosseum running into an AudioQuest Niagara 5000 and I’m happy with how it sounds. I hope it gives my gear some protection from lightning strikes. When I’m home, I still unplug everything when the weather app on my iPhone says there was a lightning strike nearby. Thank goodness for weather radar systems. 

I had a Tesla Powerwall installed in my mom’s house as a battery backup system. About $8k. She loses power out in the suburbs quite regularly when a power line goes down somewhere. One battery can give two days of power, depending on draw. 

You can’t put the battery in a living space and it weighs about 500lbs, if I recall correctly. It can go outside. I suppose it would be cool to have it power a stereo and with a couple of batteries and solar, you could live off grid.

A whole house surge protector is nothing but a bunch of large MOVs put across the AC lines (and to ground which is also important). This is not a bad thing, this is a good thing. It will have no impact on the sound at all.  Schneider/Square-D, Eaton and any number of well known and reputable companies make these. They are relatively inexpensive, but there are larger and smaller ones. If you are in a lightning prone area, go for the big one. It is not going to survive a lightning strike right next to your house, but can survive one in the neighbourhood.

The good thing about putting one at the panel, is then you have the inductance of the AC wires from your panel to your equipment to soften the spike. I would like to think that any competent piece of audio equipment, especially really expensive equipment has some level of built in surge protection as well. The combination of the whole house and the in-equipment is likely to get you through most anything.

Simple power bars with simple surge protection will put more MOVs across the line. Being at your equipment, that is going to help even more. Some basic power bars add some inductance, which will help more, but that will add impedance to high current draw.  Some devices will go even further with larger inductance and circuits after the inductor and provide (in combination with your whole-house protector), protection for just about anything, but it does increase impedance between the AC line and your equipment. You can decide if there is any sonic impact of that or not.

First point, DO NOT CLICK erik_squires affiliate links, after he has fed you untrue information!

If you are interested in the Furman PST-8 that he promotes, this is the only link to use AFTER clearing your internet browser of cookies:

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Secondly, Furman SMP is NOT real series mode surge technology!

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/furman-smp-is-not-real-series-mode-surge-technology

Furman does not license series mode surge technology. They were sued by Zero Surge - the originators and license owner of the series mode technology patent - and lost. Furman was forced to call their technology SMP (Series Multi-Stage Protection), which still uses MOVs.

Real series mode surge protection does not use MOVs, because MOVs degrade with surges. This is the whole reason series mode surge technology was invented, to avoid the use of MOVs.

erik_squires:

Right. So the SMP is always on, there’s no activation lag. It also provides relatively low over-voltage protection. These may not be surges, but long lasting events. This can happen if your electric provider doesn’t balance the loads right.

This is not true! The part of SMP that is series mode surge technology is always on. However, this section is more limited in its capabilities with let-through voltages, compared to real series mode surge technology. The MOVs and EVS (Extreme Voltage Shutdown), other parts that makeup SMP (Series MULTI-STAGE Protection), have a delay before kicking in.

I just did a little bit of research sadono and I believe you have you facts wrong.

• SurgeX sued Furman for trade-mark infringement and false advertising. They did not sue them for patent infringement. They cannot legally use a term/logo like SMP (Series Mode Protection) which appears to be a trademarked term and false advertising likely because it implies a relationship to SurgeX, but I am guessing on that last part.
  

• The SurgeX site has a reference to their two original patents. They are from the 80's. 
  
• https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/12/92/3b/86aee532396c8d/US4870534.pdf   
  
• https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/d5/03/32/db000be262ff24/US4870528.pdf
  

Any protection from those would be long over. I looked on USPTO (patent database) and there are new ones, but they seem to add features or include a transformer in the circuit.