What is wrong with audiophiles?


Something that has happened countless times happened again last night. Ordinary people over for a party listening to some music easily hear things audiophiles argue endlessly don't even exist. Oh, its worse even than that- they not only easily hear but are stunned and amazed at what they hear. Its absolutely clearly obvious this is not anything they ever were expecting, not anything they can explain- and also is not anything they can deny. Because its so freaking obvious! Happens every time. Then I come on here and read one after another not only saying its impossible, but actually ridiculing people for the audacity of reporting on the existence of reality.

What is wrong with audiophiles?

Okay, concrete examples. Easy demos done last night. Cable Elevators, little ceramic insulators, raise cables off the floor. There's four holding each speaker cable up off the floor. Removed them one by one while playing music. Then replaced them. Music playing the whole time. First one came out, instant the cable goes on the floor the guy in the sweet spot says, "OH! WTF!?!?!"

Yeah. Just one. One by one, sound stage just collapses. Put em back, image depth returns.

Another one? Okay.

Element CTS cables have Active Shielding, another easy demo. Unplug, plug back in. Only takes a few seconds. Tuning bullets. Same thing. These are all very easy to demo while the music is playing without interruption. This kills like I don' know how many birds with one stone. Auditory memory? Zero. Change happens real time. Double blind? What could be more double blind than you don't know? Because nobody, not me, not the listener, not one single person in the room, knows exactly when to expect to hear a change- or what change to expect, or even if there would be any change to hear at all. Heck, even I have never sat there while someone did this so even I did not know it was possible to hear just one, or that the change would happen not when the Cable Elevator was removed but when the cable went down on the floor.

We're talking real experience here people. No armchair theorizing. What real people really hear in real time playing real music in a real room.

I could go on. People who get the point will get the point. People who ridicule- ALWAYS without ever bothering to try and hear for themselves!- will continue to hate and argue.

What is wrong with audiophiles?

Something almost all audiophiles insist on, its like Dogma 101, you absolutely always must play the same "revealing" track over and over again. Well, I never do this. Used to. Realized pretty quickly though just how boring it is. Ask yourself, which is easier to concentrate on- something new and interesting? Or something repetitive and boring? You know the answer. Its silly even to argue. Every single person in my experience hears just fine without boring them to tears playing the same thing over and over again. Only audiophiles subject themselves to such counterproductive tedium.

What is wrong with audiophiles????
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Interesting to use the comparison to wine tasting as it has been shown with multiple studies/experiments that even experts are not consistent or reliable at wine tasting.
Hush, shame on you. What is next? You will go around Kindergärten telling kids that Santa Claus does not exist?
Ordinary people should be so blown away by your system I doubt they would say it sounded any different because you took off a cable elevator.  Have them close their eyes next time instead of you talking it up first.  

Casual listeners used to iPods and AVRs don't even know what to listen for.  95 % of the "ordinary people"  have no idea what a soundstage or imaging is.   
... I have found that as soon as ANYONE chimes in "...Can't Be ..." - the verbal gates of hell open, sane people lose their composure, and the gloves are off...
Well the problem could be that too often people make posts like yours, miller.  Instead of posting something in a positive way that makes other people want to experience what you're talking about, you make a negative post that accuses people who haven't had the same experience as you of being dummies who can't hear.  There are probably many systems out there that are not as sensitive to Cable Elevator changes as your system is.

Why do you do that?  Do you think that the way to convince people that Cable Elevators make a huge difference in sound quality is to say that there is something wrong with anyone who hasn't had that experience?

Be positive, friendly and open to the ideas and opinions of other people, and you will find other people to be more accepting of your ideas and opinions.  Be dismissive, negative and argumentative and you will find many other people responding in kind to your ideas and opinions.