The Truth About Power Cords and there "Real" Price to Performance


This is a journey through real life experiences from you to everyone that cares to educate themselves. I must admit that I was not a believer in power cords and how they affect sound in your system. I from the camp that believed that the speaker provided 75% of the sound signature then your source then components but never the power cord. Until that magic day I along with another highly acclaimed AudioGoner who I will keep anatomist ran through a few cables in quite a few different systems and was "WOWED" at what I heard. That being said cable I know that I am not the only believer and that is why there are so many power cord/cable companies out there that range from $50 to 20-30 thousand dollars and above. So I like most of you have to scratch my head and ask where do I begin what brand and product and what should i really pay for it?

The purpose of this discussion to get some honest feed back on Price to Performance from you the end user to us here in the community.

Please fire away!


 


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My power cord test involved a good-quality CD player (Oppo 105) and a good-quality set of headphones (Sennheiser HD800.) The CD player has a headphone output, and so I chose a familiar CD and listened to the sound quality from each power cord in the test. The PC was the only variable in a controlled test. My sound quality target was what I was used to hearing through my Woo Audio WA22 headphone amplifier with a set of premium NOS tubes (such as the WE421 power tubes.) 

I began with the CD connected to my power conditioner using the stock cord. The sound was unlistenable. Of course, it's easy to blame the headphone output in ANY component, especially inexpensive ones. Then I moved up the power cord food chain, starting with the least-expensive PC from a small shop that cost $75 - a noticeable improvement, but still pretty dreadful sounding.

I made a series of moves to higher costing PCs that I had accumulated in my quest for truth, using better small-shop offerings that cost $150 to $250. To my surprise, the sound quality from the headphones was now quite listenable. If I had to live with this limited headphone system, this CD player and power cord would be all I needed. Total cost: $3K.

When I moved up to the expensive category of commercial PCs ($1,000 to $3,000 - which I buy at 1/2 retail or less) the sound quality improved by another significant amount. It now started to sound like the reference sound from the headphone amplifier.

So, there you have it: a "poor-man's test" of the effect of power cords. When it's the only variable, the results can only be attributed to the power cord - or to one's own delusions. 

Worry not: the Woo still won the day, but it was because of a better output mechanism and quality amplification that provide the delivery of the more nuanced qualities that separate good sound from really excellent sound. Unfortunately, that move costs a lot of money. And as someone already pointed out, the money should go first to better components and not to a better power cord.
Hey dynaquest what exactly is "unearned" money?


By the way, I dont feel there is ever any need to preface anything stated with an "in my opinion" as this is universally understood as a given. 
mambacfa,

Not to rain on your parade, but if your test had been made blind, i.e.  you had no clue what cord was attached at any point in time, your test would have validity. You may think you have superhuman hearing, but you could have just as easily proved confirmation bias as you did sound differences.
@turnbowm - which Bryston do you have?
- I have the B135 integrated - great value and quality.

I find your approach is very sound (’scuse the pun)...
So, I purchased one of the better performing (and more expensive) cords for my Ayre and another inexpensive cord for the LTA, saving myself several hundred dollars in the process."
And for components of the quality level of Bryston and LTA, one would need the very best power cables to achieve discernible improvements and that equates to $$$

My experience has been that (most) all components will benefit from a better power cable.

Since I make my own cables that use a Helix cable geometry (i.e. I do not simply add connectors to bulk cable) and I use them on all my components, so I did not even try the stock power cable that came with my Bryston.
- But it looked pretty standard, so I do believe it would impact the overall sound - to some extent.

Selection of "the right cable" is the challenge and most of the brands out there are not up to this task.

One brand I do regard as "worthy" for amps of this quality is Nordost. - Even so, I would probably select one of their higher end models.

As always, it all depends on how much one is willing to spend on this insane hobby.

Happy Listening - Steve


I would like to thank blumartini for inviting me to participate in this "so far" civil discussion. I rarely, if ever, participate in discussions like this since some "experts" cannot (or refuse to) understand how power cables can make a "difference" in sound quality.

As I perused through the responses, I noticed quite a few assumptions & opinions that, IMHO, are inaccurate, such as "Good Shielding is never going to hurt a power cord"... yes, good shielding but not "traditional shielding"... Traditional shielding, that most cable manufacturers choose to use, is detrimental to sound reproduction. It adds capacitance to the cable, which results in a duller, lifeless, less dynamic power cable... I would never use traditional shielding in Triode Wire Labs products for that reason. Some innovative methods of obtaining a great sounding cable can involve advanced cable geometry, use of piezoelectrics as well as advanced shielding materials that do not add capacitance to a cable...

Everything makes a difference. Yes, that is true... Yes, the receptacle you connect your power cables to can make a noticeable difference. (Please note I wrote "difference" not "Improvement").

Power cables can make a significant difference and "improvement" in sound quality. Recently (two weeks ago), I participated in FIVE rooms at the Capital AudioFest, providing the entire cable looms. I partnered with manufacturers & distributors, such as Vinnie Rossi, Gigawatt, Innuos, Daedalus Audio, Volti Audio, BorderPatrol, PI AudioGroup, Esoteric, QLN, Well Pleased A/V, GT Audio Works, Sound Insights, Pass Labs, etc. In the large Frederick Room, we had Pass Labs "best" gear... XS-150 mono blocks ($65K), XS preamp ($38K) & XS phono preamp ($45K)... Yes, placing my power cords on the Pass Labs gear made a significant improvement in sound quality... I did have the opportunity to "A-B" test the XS phono preamp in my "test set-up" at my Lab and the results were similar to many other preamps I tested. Yes, power cables can make an "improvement" in sound quality.

I'd like to also add that Triode Wire Labs offers a 30-day trial period, money-back guarantee on all its cable products... I believe blumartini stated that only one manufacturer offered that...

As far as my top of the line "Obsession NCF" power cable (6 ft. - $1399), I'd like to point out that it uses the expensive ($385 each connector ($770 of connectors per cable)) & incredible sounding Furutech FI-50 NCF series of connectors. The "Obsession NCF" competes with and exceeds performance of cables costing multiple times as much... money-back guarantee! Here's Jay's review... https://audiobacon.net/2019/08/17/27-audiophile-power-cables-reviewed/15/

In all of Triode Wire Labs products, there's exceptional value, since all TWL's products are directly-marketed with very low overhead costs.  

I'd like to thank Jay Luong for his incredible review of power cables, which much have been very exhausting... and to blumartini once again for inviting me to provide my $0.02...


Cheers,
Pete
Triode Wire Labs, Inc.
Affordable Audiophile Cables
https://www.triodewirelabs.com