Jazz for aficionados

The case is in fact CLOSED.

Artists of all stripes are better trained, educated, and have easier access to better materials, instruments, and places of learning than at any time in Human history.

When the next Mozart, Bach, Parker, Mingus, Monet, or van Gogh  shows up, call me.

Cheers   or    better yet      CASE CLOSED

Creative genius...it is definitely the matter of perception and of ones standards, I guess, but I would not recejt Op's words like as they are nonsense.
With todays sea of information its possible that is harder for such content to become more known or influential, but one cant argue that in past were more prominent and obvious examples in different forms of art, or music in this case...
Even here, aldo we are kind of split between the ones who like older stuff more, there is enough room for anyone to post better or equally interesting music of today or of more recent past and aldo such music is shared and displayed, still I ve got the feeling that it has not got the 'power' as 'older' artists had.
Maybe with time we shall be able to see it better....


Woody Allen pictured that thought very well in 'Midnight in Paris'
here is the scene...
https://youtu.be/XbkKirBSQnI

Frogman, reality is what "is", not what "ain't", and no one speaks for reality, it speaks for itself. As a matter of fact our posts on this thread have been speaking "reality"; they have been saying "what is", not "what ain't"; they have been saying "Old school is the only school", and even you have been confirming this with your posts.

If Thelonious Sphere Monk had wanted lyrics, he would have written lyrics. He plays his composition "radically" different every time he plays it; if he had any lyrics in mind while he was playing his composition, he wouldn't do that.

People want lyrics to "abstract instrumental music" because un-imaginative people like to be told what to think; they even like coloring books with the numbers so they know what color to paint.

O-10, I suppose it is no surprise, but I could not disagree more with your comment...

**** Old school is the only school", and even you have been confirming this with your posts. ****

Your assessment of the “new” Jazz that I have posted here is your assessment and in no way an indication of any “confirmation” on my part. The first half of your sentence “Old school is the only school” makes my previous point perfectly. This serves as a great segue to my response to you, Alex. That sentence is what I would consider “nonsense” and is along the very same lines as what was the reason for and what I referred to with my previous use of the word “nonsense”. I referred to the assertion that it was “case closed”. Nonsense. Unless there is no possibility of a different viewpoint it is nonsense. Case is not closed.
Now, to your comment, Alex. Don’t be so quick to judge my words to another when your judgment is based on a contradiction.

**** Creative genius...it is definitely the matter of perception and of ones standards ****

If it is, in fact, a matter of personal perception then the case cannot be closed. Don’t you think? That is the contradiction .

**** we are kind of split between the ones who like older stuff more, ****

You make the same mistake that is often made here. Those who like the new stuff, don’t like the old stuff any less.....glass half full. Difference is there is no automatic bias against the new stuff which would be.....glass half empty.

**** still I ve got the feeling that it has not got the ’power’ as ’older’ artists had. ****

That’s the bias.

**** Maybe with time we shall be able to see it better....****

If you truly believe that, then it cannot be case closed. And I do hope you shall be able to see it better.

Regards.