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Are "streamers" the new "transports"?

Have been following recent threads on streamers, DACs,etc. and wish to pose a question...

But, first, I would like to limit the discussion to just streamers and NOT DACs.
The analogy to which I seek clarity is the CD transport.

Assuming I have the same DAC (Chord Qutest) in use, will a "better" streamer measurably and audibly improve sound quality. If so, at what price/performance thresholds do you see?

Is it analogous to CD transports "5-10 years ago"?
Meaning, I could use:

1. Cheap Sony CDP ($200)
2. Oppo whatever model ($500)
3. Bel Canto transport ($1500)
4. Metronome or DCS ($5k+)

...and pass the signal to my DAC then to the amp. Now, as it relates to streaming...I could then...:

1. Use Apple TV or Chromecast then optical to DAC ($75)
2. Bluesound via Coax, Opt or USB to DAC ($500)
3. Lumin or Aurender ($2000)
4. Any crazy streamer that is $5K+

Sure, it's system dependent and only noticable if you have the ears and the gear for it.

But, my broader question: Outside if the "cost no object" gear ($5K+), is there a difference in the transmission of the digital signal that then creates SQ improvements via the SAME DAC?

If so, WHY?

Thanks.
ianrmack
cymbop
315 posts
 
It's been half a decade since I had a disc-spinner in my system, and I've never looked back.
ianrmack OP
227 posts
 
OP here...;-)

Why should I "forget wifi"? I dont get it. 
First, I cant, as my stereo is across the room with no ethernet jacks around.

I have found musical satisfaction by streaming Qobuz via Bluesound to my Chord Qutest.
Also "stream" my library of music on my MacBook Pro via AirPlay to the Bluesound to Chord.

Ive been at this hobby for 30 years.
My current set up is working for me. I can A/B the same song on my CDP/Chord and Bluesound/Chord and I cant tell the difference. I'm an amatuer musician and also have a decent rig: Belles amp to Dynaudio Speical 40s with all DH Labs cables.

This thread has confirmed to me that, yes, there are more expensive solutions out there yet not many can even articulate in 2 sentaces WHY they would be superior to Bluesound assuming both solutions use the same DAC.

Stepping off the merry go round...
highpeakrider
43 posts
 
I asked the question on this thread, the conclusion from the guy that did upgrade to Lumin was it’s a sideward step rather than huge improvement, I’m sticking with my Node 2i

Maybe most of the cost is software development rather than improvement in sound quality and maintaining the platform?

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/57656-node-2i-upgrade-lumin-or-auralic/page/2/#comments

ianrmack OP
227 posts
 
@highpeakrider2...Exactly my "conclusion", too.

Sure, I would bet there are some sonic improvements. But, at what cost for what incremental improvement...?

As I have stated in other threads, I'm a "92% guy" when it comes to audio.
I respect those who seek that last 5-10%, but it comes at a cost on which I (personally) do not place value.

Maybe I just cant tell the difference...?
Maybe I don't want to...;-)
soix
9,811 posts
 
This thread has confirmed to me that, yes, there are more expensive solutions out there yet not many can even articulate in 2 sentaces. WHY they would be superior to Bluesound assuming both solutions use the same DAC.

I believe I recommended in my prior post to read Darko’s review of the Innuos Zen Mk. 3 where he not only compares it directly to other streamers but also offers possible explanations as to what aspects of its design and build may contribute why the Zen sounds better.  If you haven’t read it you may find it somewhat interesting. 

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