Preamp Output Capacitor: Mundorf Supreme vs. Supreme Silver Oil


Anyone compared the bass response of these two caps?  I bought the Supremes for trial purposes and really loved what they did to my system's imaging (front to back layering) and immediately bought the Silver Gold Oil Supremes.  Unfortunately while they were smoother, more beautiful, and even better at imaging, they had no bass (actually, they lost bass as they broke in).  Anyone know how the Silver Oil's fit into the line?  

I'm using them in a Don Sach's DS2 Preamp ( https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/7983).  

Thanks.
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Hi @wig , a lot of people seem to love the Miflex's and I'm sure they are great performers in many systems.  In mine, they sounded good, but removed almost all the front to back layering that my system is capable of.  I really enjoyed the Sach's pre and was feeling content with it, but when I installed the Mundorf Supremes, all of a sudden I had another  2-3 feet of meaningful depth to the imaging.  I didn't know what I was missing, but in comparison, the Miflexs were almost two-dimensional. 

Moving up to Mundorf Silver/Gold/Oils added another foot to the depth of the imaging (and also reduced the bass to a level that I couldn't accept until I added in new subwoofer amplifiers that could boost my bass a bit). 

Moving on to the Duelund's probably took out that extra foot, but made the sound more real/natural.  They're also a little cleaner and more precise in terms of locating instruments in the soundstage.  

I think whether the Deulunds are worth it or not (vs the Miflexs) will really depend on the depth capabilities of your system's imaging. 

It's been too long for me to accurately comment, but I want to guess that they're more tonally similar than different (whereas V-Cap TFTFs and Mundorfs will definitely both shift the tone in different directions).  

Hope that helps.
@ cal3713

Thanks for your response, very informative and I will probably get those Deulunds Tinned as well. They are considered the best Caps one can buy...

My system is some what revealing but has the ability to convey depth, texture, large sound stage with you are there imaging.

Wig : )
@wig Finally checked out your system. Wish I could hear it, always wanted to hear those speakers. Hope the Duelunds work out... very curious to hear how you feel about the comparison.
they're more tonally similar than different (whereas V-Cap TFTFs and Mundorfs will definitely both shift the tone in different directions).  
We've used the V-Caps a lot and never run into anything like that FWIW.
@atmasphere I’ve seen a ton of people love them, but they just didn’t work in my system .  The ds pre has two outputs and so it was super easy to switch back and forth between the Mundorfs and vcaps. In my pre, with a pretty large cap (2uf) right on the output, going to the vcaps was like turning on a fluoresce light.